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every PBN has a footprint if used on multiple money sites/ clients ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by irra35, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. irra35

    irra35 Newbie

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    I have just finished building a 10 domain niche specific PBN my sites are a mix of blogs and some more creative fronts. All proper precautions have been taken to remove/hide footprints.

    I work with one niche in specific for which i have 5 clients now. If I use the same sites to rank the same group of clients perhaps using a variety for each so I am not using 10 for each client will this not still be an obvious footprint for google to identify ?

    My fear was sparked after reading a blog post by baeldung (google it i cant post urls yet sorry didnt realise till i tried to post but i think my question still makes sense without the case study)


    Any thoughts? Do we have to accept PBN's as a churn a burn method for ranking ? Google has recently commented that it is going to treat blog posts as spam links anyway now.. is outreach all we have left for ranking client sites ?
     
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    Initial Effort Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    All PBNs have a burnout timeframe. Whether it's 12 months or 12 days, that will depend on how your manage the network, who you select to host, how you select the domains, and what sites you choose to link to.

    I can offer more tailored advice if you feel comfortable sharing more specifics, but really my answer won't change dramatically.
     
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  3. SEO Power

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    Ranking sites with PBNs can be classified as a churn and burn method with more safety than other methods. Therefore, sites using PBNs last longer in the rankings.

    By the way, even if you do link outreach, most of the resulting backlinks will be placed within blog posts.
     
  4. SteveWaller

    SteveWaller Regular Member

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    No we most certainly DO NOT have to accept PBNs as a churn and burn method - treated well, there isn't any major reason why a PBN would be burned by Google or any other search engine. Of course there are risks but that can be said of almost any form of link building too.

    As for your question about using the same 10 PBN sites to link to 5 client sites, this would pose a bit of a problem in terms of leaving a footprint and, in my opinion, it's only a matter of time before this linking pattern becomes a major Google target much like link wheels were some time ago. In truth, you need more sites in your PBN if you already have 5 clients as 10 just isn't enough. I'd go looking for more domains right now if I were you.
     
  5. irra35

    irra35 Newbie

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    This is what I had to come think aswell, the reason I have chosen to work with one niche within the health sector is that I assumed I would have to build less websites in my pbn if they were all relevant to my sites.. is this an incorrect assumption? How many websites would be needed to diversify the profile of my 5 clients sites so that I do not leave an obvious footprint?

    Thank you for your comments so far!!