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envisioned's Instagram Journey - from Newbie to Pro

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  1. envisioned

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    envisioned's Instagram Journey - from Newbie to Pro



    Hi everyone,


    so I decided to take on an Instagram Journey, actually my first journey EVER related to IM at all.
    This being said, I'm a total Newbie in any aspect regarding IM. Neither have I ever used a VPS, Proxy etc. before, nor did I knew what CPA was until a few seconds ago. To be honest, I also don?t really know how to start a website for those CPA offers e.g. I?ve never done that before. I may know in theory, but the practical part sometimes is totally different so yeah.
    Well, a total Newbie in almost every aspect regarding, as already said.
    But I?m here to learn all this from the basics to more complicated stuff, which I need for my Instagram Journey. So let?s get started!


    Why this journey?


    • well, as it is my first time ever doing something related to IM, I wanted to share my journey here on BHW for you to follow along and maybe to be some kind of a guide for other Newbies who wanna start, too.
    • gain knowledge regarding IM and everything that I need to master this journey
    • I wanna give insights into struggles & problems you may face in the beginning and show how I deal with 'em
    • showing what you can reach while being on a budget and not investing much in the beginning
    • I wanna see what I can build under my current circumstances (really busy with college, almost not time at all right now)
    • for motivational purposes
    • why not? : )


    Why Instagram?


    • I've been using Instagram on/off for the past few years. Among my friends I was probably the first one using Instagram a few years ago. Remember that time when you could do almost anything on Instagram? Yeah, that's when I created my first account : )
    • It's a platform which was always easy to understand for me and I already got quite familiar with it.
    • I already owned some accounts before, some of them got banned as I was testing, some didn't so I'm aware of some restrictions here and there
    • this is the first account I'll try making money with (the others were just kinda just for fun)
    • well, just personal preference

    What I've done so far:


    • Created an account about a week ago (for more info see down belooow)
    • read some posts here and there...


    What I'll be sharing:


    • my thoughts
    • achievements
    • problems
    • setbacks
    • struggles
    • everything related to this journey...


    Miscellaneous:


    • I will be using only 1 account at the moment at a niche I'm quite familiar with
    • I may be adding more accounts in the future, I don't know yet
    • AGAIN: I am a total Newbie in ANY aspect so please bear with me
    • As already said, I don't have much time right now as I'm near exams at college
    • English is not my native language so sorry for any mistakes
    • I will try to update this thread as much as I can, won't surely be daily but I'll do my best : )


    What you can expect:


    • questions, questions, questions, questions...
    • a journey with up and downs :)
    • maximizing gains as much as possible with less time (busy private life)
    • and many more things...


    Anything related to the IG Account / Stats:


    • I started the account about 1 1/2 weeks ago
    • I'm doing almost everything manually, i.e. following/unfollowing
    • bought a few followers which will be added over time, but I definitely regret buying them as it ain't really worth it imo
    • I'd say I gained at least 60% of my followers by hand / manually
    • I am using a self-made iMacros Scripts for liking/following/unfollowing
      • I actually spent days trying to figure out how iMacros works and actually making the script..



    Account Followers
    Account 1 3355


    How I will monetize:


    • I don't know yet, all I can think of right now are shoutouts as I'm not familiar with any other method...


    Feel free to ask, comment, follow along etc. : )


    Best Regards,
     
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    Good Luck OP Subscribed :)
     
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  4. thewhateverguy

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    How many do you follow in day? How many follow back? You do likes/follows?
     
  5. envisioned

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    Thank you guys! : )

    I can't exactly tell how many I'm following as it varies. It depends on the hours I let my Pc running iMacros and how many I follow manually, this varies from day to day as I don't really count that. I try to stay under 60 follows/hour on the iMacros Script tho.

    Yes, Liking, Following and sometimes Unfollowing.

    Currently seeing if it's better to Follow straight up and then unfollow straight down, or if it is better to follow some days a week and unfollow on other days, i.e. follow for 3 days, unfollow for 3 days. I still need to figure out what works best here.

    Also I'm currently testing if I can unfollow and follow at one day without any bans.
     
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    Do you follow private users too? I heard following private users is a problem
     
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    I started 2 weeks ago - 1600 real followers :) Currently unfollowing this week manually and I have the same problem as you - not enough time. Hope you can monetize it fast, good luck mate ^_^
     
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    Yes, I follow them as it was too complicated to implement if-statements in a iMacro Script to see if they're private or not. Actually, I'm don't wanna have my PC running the whole day so I might be changing something in the near future.

    Don't know what the problem could be. It depends on your sources, where u scrape the users from you gonna follow.

    As Instagram is becoming bigger and bigger there are more and more users getting their profiles private, I'd actually do the same.
    The actual problem might be that your stats don't show you are following 7,5k if private users didn't accept your request yet.

    yeah, time's a big problem for me right now and will always be, so let's see what is the best way to handle the whole situation, since I need to gain knowledge, too. :D
    Doing everything manually is actually a big pain and I'm really trying to get away from it, since I wanna concentrate on other things rather than spending hours I don't really have following/unfollowing, posting etc.

    I just don't wanna invest too much in the beginning so I can see if it turns out good, so I'm trying to find a reasonable compromise.
     
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  9. thewhateverguy

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    Stats is the problem. I follow more than I mean to because private users wont count, which results in bans.
     
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    I don't think you can get banned trough that. Just follow up to a point where you can't follow anymore, take a look at your stats and do the maths, you'll know +/- how many private users didn't accept your request yet and take a count with them, or just don't follow until 7,5k to be on the safe side.

    Depending on where you scrape ur users from, private users can be gold when it comes to engagement.
     
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    Goodluck on journey, seems like you know what youre doing, so shouldn't be too hard to manage.

    Depending on your niche, try ecommerce and offer products related to your niche or blogs/sites to link and monetize with adsense.
     
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    Update


    Account Followers
    Account 1 4000 (+645)

    I've reached 4k followers right now. I'm currently following again, especially on the weekend. Still using iMacros and doing some things manually. I'll unfollow on those days of work and see if I get better results than actually following straight up for a week and then unfollowing for the following week.

    Actually, I wanted to go over and buy a bot in about 2-3 weeks but I'm still afraid of investing money, unsure if I'll be able to monetize my account correctly or if I will grow fast enough to not invest too much money right now. Can't really decide whether to take this step or not. I may test it for 1-2 months and see if it turns out good, we'll see.

    I'm also still grinding to find out what engages users the most...
     
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    what niche you are targeting !! if you do not mind :D can you suggest any good niches to test thank you
     
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    For now, I won't tell my niche as it's not really important. I'd suggest you to go with a niche you can identify yourself with - at least a bit 'cause followers see if you're really engaged or not. If you just wanna go the easy way, take a look at the most followed accounts on Instagram (besides all those celebs) and see what pages have a good amount of followers. Make it even easier and rip of their pics and use them. I would not suggest this, but there are many doing this.

    Good niches would be something related to celebreties, fashion, music, love, fitness, vines, funny pages etc. :) choose one which you've got interested in yourself and it'll be easier.
     
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    Good journey OP. Following along.
     
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    Update


    Account Followers
    Account 1 5115 (+1115)

    I've now passed 5k Followers on my account since the last update.

    I stopped using the iMacros script as I didn't want my Pc to be running 24/7 or so many hours a day. Since the script was on moderate settings I didn't really see any big difference right now, only a small decrease on likes per pic, but I can live with that instead of having to always check if I have any ban or if the script is working well. Somehow irritated me having to have the script running while needing to to other things on the PC. Having my only PC running a script kept me from concentrating on other things as I was still worried about it working well or not.

    Also, I tried to engage a bit more at the times I posted something, so I was a few more minutes "on" than usual.


    This being said, I'm really tired of doing everything manually. It gets you good results, for sure, but somehow Idk... it sucks, it really really does.
    I'm planning on boting in 3-4 weeks from now when I got some more time to read everything carefully and figuring out which way will probably be the best way to go. I'm trying to make up my mind about botting smarter than most may be doing. I plan on letting my account fully autopilot itself, only having to look for it once in a while while preparing posts or something. I'll see how this goes. Still afraid of the investment, but I guess I'll try it.

    What takes up most of my time right now is planing / scheduling the posts and actually posting them or at least the fact that I have to care about doing it.


    Yet, I noticed that the number of max followings on my account dropping from time to time. New lower limits are being applied somehow.
    At first, I reached a limit near 4,7k instead of those 7,5k and now I'm at about 3,5k limit as I'm never ever following 1k+ private users.

    Has anyone been experiencing the same? This is really really strange. Haven't had any pw reset or something similar, just unable to follow more. Instagram itself doesn't give me a hint, the button just won't turn green, only a third-party app told me that I've already reached the limit. This sucks for sure. I hope they don't drop the limit to a few k only.

    Would probably take the same amount of time as going straight to 7,5k since you would be following less and thus having to unfollow less, too, but this is really strange.

    Should I probably stop with following/unfollowing manually for a few days?

    If I have some more free time coming, I'll probably ad 2 more accounts since I've already figured out some cool niches that I might be interested in, but - yet again - time's a big problem for me.
     
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    Nice update, it does suck to manually do it so id highly suggest a bot to manage it, but it can be done manually!

    Also for the limits, it might be because you follow private users and they don't accept nor decline you, its like an invisible follow.
     
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    Will follow this journey regularly! I am also into Instagram marketing :) Good Luck!
     
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  19. envisioned

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    Hey, thanks for your feedback.
    And yep, it really really sucks doing it all manually, especially if you don't have that much time to spend your whole day connected to the phone.

    As for the limits, I can't be following about 1k private users, I got limited at about 3.5k somehow and I definitely ain't following 4.2k private users, no way. that's really really strange and I hope Instagram isn't pushing down the limits.

    I'm planning on unfollowing nearly everyone before starting to use a bot to see if it's really worth it or not.

    thank you! : )
     
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    Update



    Account Followers
    Account 1 Account 2 Account 3 7603 (+2488) 40 -

    General Update



    • At first I thought I'll only stay with one account but I realized that I got more and more interested in other niches so I decided to start another 2 accounts and remain only with these 3 for a while due to accounts/IP thing for safety (not having to bother buying a proxy which will save some money)
    • I spent some time thinking about which bot to choose since I'm tired of either doing it manually or using iMacros for it. My goal is to put them fully at auto-pilot, having to only prepare posts now and then.
    • FollowLiker vs Instagress vs Massplanner?
      • Well, I decided to go with MP since it's a monthly subscription (which is best for me now, I know it's not the best long term but I don't have to spend that much money right in the beginning and can save up some every month to pay MP) + it best suited my needs since I wanted a posting feature
      • Since there is an option to run a VPS for free for some time, I didn't even think twice about MP vs Ig, since MP hast so many function and Ig does not have the ability to post, which is what actually takes up most of my time every day
    • I want to have kind of "clear" stats for all the accounts before starting with the botting process so that I can do my own stats and see if it was really worth the upgrade.
    • I'll post an update as soon as I got everything set up


    Account 1



    • I've had some problems hitting the max. number of followings and still be far away from 7,5k (see last update). What I did now was to unfollow everybody, which got me a temp ban for unfollowing which disappeared some hours later
    • I was thinking that Instagram was lowering the limits for the followings but I guess I was wrong. I was just banned from following (though no message appeared). Everything seems to work fine now, but I still didn't refollow so many users so I can't really say if the limits are lower, but I don't think so, since I was not even able to follow one single person during that "ban"
    • I'll pause the following/unfollowing process for some days prior to starting botting in about 1 1/2 weeks (Update coming) and I was even thinking about deactivating my account for some days so that users aren't able to find me and unfollow me (since I plan on not being actively engaging, only posting pics). This way I could have some "clear" stats prior to starting botting, but I'll see how I'll decide
    • I'll either fully deactivate my account or I'll be only posting pics


    Account 2



    • created this account in another niche but I've only been posting some pics to prepare this account for botting, so I ain't really paying that much attention to it right now (since I'm lacking time) so I'm not expecting that much growth prior to botting
    • just following a small amount of people now and then, warming it up a bit


    Account 3



    • Not yet created. I'll create this one later this week and about 4-6 days before starting to bot I'll start posting some images, to "prepare it". Still need to search for some users to scrape images from etc.


    Hopefully, I'll be able to achieve what I have in mind. This thread will surely help me to stay motivated 'cause there are definitely days where you wanna quit everything, but I guess it's worth the struggle. : )
     
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