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EnlightenedOne JV Scam over thousands of dollars.

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by kahwhyc, Aug 25, 2012.

  1. kahwhyc

    kahwhyc Junior Member

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    Here is the link to the thread which this post pertains to http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...your-investment-quickly-surest-thing-bhw.html


    Profile: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/276795-enlightenedone.html

    Summary :
    He requested investments from multiple members of BHW to promote and advertise his company.
    I had originally sent $1,400 to him which was suppose to be at least doubled after 30 days. 30 days passed and he messaged me on Skype saying that the payout was ready but investors had a chance to reinvest for 30% over 6 months. I agreed to the reinvestment since I did not need the money urgently and it was better than sitting in my bank account. Here is when it gets suspicious, he begins to take his time with his so called contract which ended up taking 45 days total and as you know paypal dispute has a time limit of 45 days. At this point he has disappeared off of Skype and BHW. It has been weeks now and no other investors has been able to contact him and he has put no effort to contact us. All the numbers he provided either goes to straight to voicemail or does not work at all now.

    In case anyone says I should have taken further precautions, he had originally provided a contract and phone number. He had already sent me $1,400 through paypal after the 30 days so I had no reason not to believe him.

    For future investors in the JV section, I advise you to get proof of their address and name of any investments you plan on making with others because someone that is legit should have no problem with doing that. I believe this MUST be enforced in a section that deals with large sum of money by mods. I do not understand why the owner and mods allow the JV section to be a public area where no verification is required because for the past months there has been so many scams already. This allows people to freely scam others with no consequences and people will continue to come and scam others because nothing is enforced. For now all that scammers get is a slap on the wrist and a ban from the forums when you can easily just make another account and begin again.

    I have no intention of providing people with money anymore for their business in the JV section as long as there are no enforced rules. There are only a few legit running threads in the section and the rest is complete scams.

    If anyone has any further information about anything related to him, please let me know as I will personally go travel and find him to get him so I can get the police associated. Right now he is either in California or Florida based on what he has told me and his public profile says which isn't too far from me.
     
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  2. BigBuddy

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    Already Pm ed enlightenedone. No response. I dont think, he will back.

    I request members to initiate some legal action against him, as we mods can only kick him out of BHW.

    We have changed the rule and its in force for the past few weeks. Every JV Thread will be approved by moderator, before it goes live. But still members should be careful while investing huge money and we are not responsible for your loss.
     
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    Dont blame the mods and admins for this. They are not god who can foresee everything.
     
  4. kahwhyc

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    There are legit running JVs in the section if you put any effort into looking into any of them. I have made over $3,000 over the past months on just JVs themselves. Please do not run your mouth on something you have no experience or actual information on.

    I am not blaming anyone, I am simply asking why nothing is enforced.
     
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  5. kahwhyc

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    That is $3,000 which I put no effort into making besides giving them an investment. Please show me what you can do in the course of 3 months before you speak. For now, I have no reason to prove anything to you since you are nobody to me. Instead of me spoon feeding you, go click a couple of links and check yourself. I have no need to prove myself to the guy with 2 posts that joined this month.
     
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    A shame to hear more bad news from the JV section.

    There isn't really any rules and regulations that the staff at BHW can provide that are full proof against scammers and confidence tricksters.

    Most of the correspondence with any JV is done outside the confines of BHW, and therefore any participants in these JV's are carrying things forward with their own free will and judgement. So anything that takes place outside the BHW forum cannot be fully monitored by the BHW staff.

    Apart from shutting down the JV section on BHW permanently, there is little BHW can do to stop these frauds other than providing the help and support from the community to nail these criminals.
     
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    Can't agree with you more. Why people are so stupid to fall in such traps? :confused::confused:
     
  8. Jfrase

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    Reminds me of good old runescape: " Double your money" scam :S

    But yeah, verifying address, documents really wont help. This can be faked.

    By the way: What type of investment was it?

    With an investment legally he is not required to pay it unless he made that money back. If it was a loan or something like that, then its a different story. But there is no such thing as 100% Guaranteed investment. Investing is a risk. And this type of things happen all the time. Thats why never invest over 10% of your money into a project.
     
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    Because people are desperate. And a scammer or confidence trickster plays on this desperation.
     
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    I dont think its that. I think its because people are greedy. They have been sold on a lie that that there is easy money. Truth is that it happens sometimes.... most of us need to work hard and smart at the same time.

    But normally people who are looking for easy money , shortcuts etc are the ones who fall for scams like that.
     
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  11. kahwhyc

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    Let's be honest, how is the guy that is trying to make their first dollar online trying to shit on me? I'm still not going to spoon feed you no matter how bad you want me to but there are a couple of running JVs that are legit and successful. Majority of the JVs I am associated with is now private besides one that is still active in the section. I have nothing to prove to the guy sitting behind his screen. I am not asking for your sympathy, who do you really think you are? lol. The fact that you think $1,400 impacted me tremendously makes me giggle. As long as it makes you feel better then all the power to you :)

    I am responsible for myself sure but I was asked to create a thread on shitlist so that's what I did. Next time I need your assurance or sympathy I will be sure to message you directly ;) because I'll definitely need your reassurance.

    On to the next one
     
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    I agree. That is also true in these situations. I think quite possibly it could be the combined GREED and DESPERATION traits that lead to people falling for these scams.
     
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    The issue is that he completely disappeared on the face of the earth. This was a investment for his company, I was not looking for 100% guaranteed. Even if he did managed to lose all the money, I would rather have that happen then him disappear. This was less than 10% of my money but there are a couple of people that did invest money that they should have not invest and are in distressed about it now.

    I was asked to make this thread which I complied to, I am not asking for anyone's sympathy so I don't understand why anyone is trying to talk me down.
     
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    Yes I am also the president of the United States so I guess that makes us even. Honestly I don't understand how this is me taking a shortcut when I am just using extra money that I have :D. It causes me no distress and I have no guilt about it so you can carry on now.

    Like I said earlier, whatever makes you happier about your own life but I don't really care about what assumptions you would like to make.

    You are clearly insecure about yourself if you need to prove anything to me, the guy over the internet. Which would explain why you're sitting in my thread thinking of the next thing to say to try and talk me down. This would be a good time for me to stop responding now.
     
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    kahwhyc vs MyCannonBooms

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    Guys stick with the topic and no flaming here...If you wanna discuss abt general JV issues , post in lounge...
     
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    if it seem so too good to be true - it usually is ...
     
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    @ mycannonbooms

    I see you just joined this month so perhaps you don't realize that this is a shitlist thread were members here call out scammers that have ripped them off. Give proof of the scam and warn others so they will not be victimized.

    It's not an "I told you so", or an "I never would have done that", or a "You should have known better" thread. Perhaps you have no faith in people you meet online (I don't have much either) but I refrain from making such posts in the shitlist threads. In fact I only post when I have something to contribute.

    Perhaps you should think about doing the same.

    EDIT: Sorry BB... Was busy typing this and didn't see your post.... I agree totally!
     
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    sorry to hear that mate