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Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Salahedka, Apr 16, 2017.

  1. Salahedka

    Salahedka Junior Member

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    Hey guys I want to start Email marketing as a professional
    Some guys give me a software of sending for 12000$
    Help guys if that price is good or just lost of money
     
  2. Salahedka

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    ?
     
  3. Billy_Batts

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    I think what you mean is that people try to sell you a e-mail list for $12000? Now, let me just forget the fact this looks like a troll message, fuck it, Im high so got all the patience in the world.

    Let me tell you this, If you buy a email list from someone you are bound to fail in email marketing!
     
  4. Salahedka

    Salahedka Junior Member

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    Not an Email list , Software of sending emails
     
  5. Billy_Batts

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    I don't know about standalone software for mass email and automation although there probably are but the most websites that are used for sending lists and automated emails following the law are Aweber, GetResponce and MailChimp.
     
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    $12000 is way to much money. If you paid that, you lost.
     
  7. Salahedka

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    Ok Thanks
     
  8. Salahedka

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    How much cost software of sending email ?
     
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    ymlp did $30 a month for 2500 email
     
  10. Salahedka

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    I want send emails using my smtp
     
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    Yeah you want to send mass email on your own which is illegal so you need to ask your question in the black hat section of the forum @Zwielicht
     
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    i you want to use you smtp just use Send Blaster
     
  13. iamdeadat2017

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    I can give you Dedicated SMTP Server.
    I Do it For ESP like Providers.
    My Servers are capable to send 5 Million+ a Day .
    I use same MTA some of well known Companies use like Mailchimp.
    PowerMTA and as of latest version.
    PM me for your interest.

    I also posted a giveaway about this last month.
     
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    Only $1k** Using you can send 1 - 1.5 Billion a Month Easily.
    Having a whole /24 IP block of your Own.(254 Usable IP)

    And also can resell to smaller senders or Own a real ESP category Server.
     
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    Can I get your skype ?
     
  16. eMonetize

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    OP...you say you want to start email marketing as a professional.

    Can you elaborate what you mean by this?

    Are you wanting to build opt-in lists and do mainstream email marketing or are you wanting to monetize data?

    If you want to build opt-in lists, then use an ESP to send with. If you can't make a profit using an ESP, then you are doing something wrong.

    If you are monetizing data, in my opinion, you are far better off starting with ESPs if you have reasonble quality data. As you will get better deliverability (inboxing) than using your own IPs.

    If you have data that performs poorly with ESPs and you can't turn a profit. Then you may have no choice but to use your own servers/IPs in order to lower your per message sent cost and become profitable. But this more complicated and costly than just setting up your own SMTP.


    I have been monetizing purchased data for over 16 years.

    You need to understand that there is a HUGE difference between sending emails and inboxing them.

    When you get IPs, they will at best have neutral IP reputation and you will need to warm up the IPs to build up their reputation. Most big domains look at engagement, so you will need quality data in order to build it up. Those that have spam buttons, you will need to stay under the acceptable ratio. Which will vary from 3-10 per 1000 messages sent. Then you have all the blacklists to contend with. Plus most domains will have some anti-spam system that you will need to get past before any of the above even comes into play.

    Most of the companies providing servers/IPs are just taking advantage of novice mailers.

    Most provide interspire / powermta, which are hacked versions. How reputable of a company is that?
    Intersprire is already footprinted by many antispam systems and messages never see the inbox.
    They may not even provide clean IPs and if you test, you may find them already blocked / blacklisted.
    They always overcharge for their services by claiming you can send tons of mail using small amounts of IPs.
    They have no IP replacement policy, and if they do, how reliable are they?

    The reality is that in order to send volume, you will need a large amount of IPs / domains.

    However, when you first start out, you are still going to end up getting IPs blocked / blacklisted.

    So it is imperative that you are getting IPs from a reputable provider that will provide IPs at a fair price and have an acceptable replacement policy.

    Ideally you want to be able to replace the IPs month to month and this is a must if you are sending GI data.

    Your biggest expense will be your IP cost, so if you pay to much. You are dead before you even start.

    *** In most cases, you NEVER want to pay for your IPs upfront. The provider should be able to deliver and let you test them before paying. That way you know that they are good and the provider can deliver what they say they can.

    Also, it's not about the data you are initially sending. The whole point is to collect your opens / clickers, segment, remove unresponsive users / complainers. That way you will essentially be converting the data from quantity to quality and as time goes by, your IP blocks will start to last much longer. Which will increase your profitability.

    There is still much more to it all. But done right it can be extremely profitable. Everyone that I know that is in the business and knows what they are doing, for the most part, does 6-7 figures. While that may be a huge range, much comes down to one's ability to scale and effectively build / manage the infrastructure needed to scale.

    Last word of advice, don't waste your time scraping data. Typically it is going to be crap and difficult to turn a profit with / get your IPs killed quicker. Plus you will have no opt-in record to produce if you are asked for it. Buy 3rd party data, which is data that the users have provided permission to receive messages from third parties. Also, clean your data. Just removing bounces isn't enough. You need to also clean it of potential threats.

    Anyway, hope that helps.
     
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    MailerKing is 50$/month,12000$ is too expensive.
     
  18. eMonetize

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    Professional mailers are usually leased and will run you $500-$1000 per month plus IPs.

    There are some that have yearly licenses that can cost $5K-$20K+.

    I have spent around $200K on my custom built mailer. I'm not saying that is what it's worth (as-is). Just that over time, I add, remove and test functions as needed and it all adds up.

    Guys making 6-7 figures aren't using some cheap mailer.
     
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    Yeah leased or own build SMTP dedicated servers are best for cheap input and good output.....

    I also found great report using this.
    for sending bulk with cheap cost is to having build own server is best.
    and the dashboard provided by the Configurator also great......

    though I also do this type of things now.first time I also hired to get done this thing.
    254 IP 128 GB RAM 32 Core Processor Server with PowerMTA 4.5 and SSL connection with DKIM SPF DMARC Passed is best for sending 3-5 million a day.and warming is best for performance.

    this type of server is capable to send 50M A DAY.
    but for delivery 3-5 is enough a day....

    those who are experienced they can share their story too.

    and the pricing is also very cheap than most ESP that costs $50k ++
    only $2k*** can do all configuration server cost and troubleshooting of delivery..
     
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    Changing the email headers can differentiate the traditional spamming senders from good and new senders.
    "X-HeadersPrefix"
    I saw this helps better delivery as new headers are treated differently