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Eh, bad idea?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by no4h~, Jun 5, 2011.

  1. no4h~

    no4h~ Regular Member

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    So I just found out that my main competitor (whom hired a full time SEO company to outrank my company...) is using an outdated exploitable version of WP (2.8.3 Admin Reset Sploit...) and I was really going back and forth on whether or not I wanted to do this and risk getting caught. :S.

    So essentially I'd go through and 404 all the blogs they have listed.

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    I've tried just about everything but I'm simply outnumbered by their SEO company, and I don't know what else to do.
     
  2. cornkernel

    cornkernel Regular Member

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    would you want someone to do that to you? karma. work hard and beat him at the game the proper way. you'll get more satisfaction out of it! :)
     
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  3. GoldenGlovez

    GoldenGlovez Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I would avoid doing anything of the sort. Personally, I would notify the webmaster about the issue. Simple sabotage can be restored through backups and will be up and running again under 24 hours.

    On the other hand, if you do decide to do this. I wouldn't do it from your home PC on your home internet connection. You need to take a laptop with a spoofed mac address and a public proxy. Far from your home/business in a public wifi area. You don't want to be traced back easily.
     
  4. kvhnuke

    kvhnuke Junior Member

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    Personally, I think that's a good idea. If that's what suits you best, then go for it. But on the other note, its a bad idea to take down your competitor.
     
  5. satyawrat

    satyawrat Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    He will be back in no time, I am sure he must be having bacup.
    If he is still running older versions of WP it makes me doubt his smartness, so why not just play fair and win. He is not google after all, both of you have equal opportunities.
     
  6. Shabaoth

    Shabaoth Registered Member

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    Agree with cornkernel, karma.:lock1:
     
  7. Sacrilege

    Sacrilege Regular Member

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    Up maybe, but it's not going to be "running" anytime soon assuming you play it smart and change every word on every page to whatever keyword the site is targeting, then modify every link so that it points at a child porn site. Also, make sure that every page spits at least 12 malware items and pageloads take a healthy 12 minutes each.

    Good luck dealing with that penalty.

    Oh and edit the theme file to automatically place a <noindex> tag on every page. Count the number of days between when the content is replaced and when they find it.

    Disclaimer: I am shocked and disgusted by my suggestions, I don't condone any of them. :D
     
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  8. no4h~

    no4h~ Regular Member

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    I obviously wouldn't, that's a good point. But I'm honestly outnumbered and I don't know what else to do from this point. We were #1 for 6 years, they (almost over the span of 3 days) took over #1 in all of our markets. :(. It's frustrating to say the least.

    Oh of course, I'd of either done that or used tor to do it all.

    Like said, I'm running out of any other solutions. I create 1k backlinks, and the SEO team he has working on this creates 10k, I'm just underpowered.

    It's really just manpower they have in comparison working on this. We're doing everything we can that's legitimate... and we're not budging.

    It made me laugh a bit man, you get a thanks. Hahah.
     
  9. ghostdude

    ghostdude Registered Member

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    Like others have said, think about how you'd feel if this happened to you. If you do this, you never know, you may create an enemy out of this person and that's not good.

    Instead, beat him at his own game. Reverse engineer what they are doing and find things they haven't done. Study their strategies and use them to your advantage and try to go beyond what they are doing. It'll be a lot better in the long run. Don't focus on the short run, although I can understand it is hard to not focus on that.

    Good luck!
     
  10. Tony Barns

    Tony Barns Regular Member

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    Hmmm waste of time just be legit man. If you start shit with this dude and he suspects it was you then he will do the same back to you.
     
  11. GoldenGlovez

    GoldenGlovez Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    A database restoration would replace anything changed... Including Pages/Posts/Comments. Theme changes on the other hand would need to be manually fixed, restored from a backup or replaced with an original copy. Unless the webmaster does not keep local database copies (Which anyone with a brain should do) then you could force a database backup to overwrite the previous save. Most hosting companies keep copies of multiple database backups that are only accessible if contacted for manual restoration.

    As someone who holds an CCNP Security certification and 7+ years of Network Security and Administration experience. I highly suggest you rethink even attempting to 'hack' through a TOR Network. You are far from untraceable and many nodes are subject to US Jurisdictional law for subpoenaed IP logs and entry/exit information. Hacking a website is not a game to be taken lightly.

    Just my advice, take it as you will.

    Best of luck,
    GoldenGlovez
     
  12. efwebs

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    If you want to be shady, I would consider spamming comments from porn blogs to them. At least that isn't illegal. I think you'd be going too far to hack their site.

    Of course, you'd be a better person if you found more legitimate ways of competing.