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Effect of guest posting on authority sites

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by casperl, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. casperl

    casperl Regular Member

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    I bought ~10 guest posts on high quality websites (engadget, blogher, huffington etc.) in the last 3-4 weeks for an old forum with thousands of posts . I did not see any serious effects on an that forum yet.

    I think I can tell that the website is an authority forum. I was not doing any SEO on that forum for 3 years and the traffic decreased to 1/10 of its highest in that period (so it has a good potential). Now I am trying to recover from that situation as fast as possible.

    I was expecting a kind of jump in terms of SERP movements but I did not see anything major yet.

    Am I expecting effects too early? What is your experience on high quality guest posts? When do you see effects? Or shouldn't I expect any serious effects from these guest posts?
     
  2. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    It's hard to say without seeing your site, the links, etc.
    Is it possible the site has some type of penalty? Must have cost a lot of money?
    Often those links won't make a huge difference on their own, but you should definitely see some difference, especially after 3-4 weeks.
    This new Google update seems to be a little weird though. I'm doing some stuff on a low competition business and having trouble getting it moving.
     
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  3. casperl

    casperl Regular Member

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    I don't think so. The website is 10+ years old (DR: 50 and never built backlinks aggressively in the past). Restarted building backlinks ~3 months ago (with relevant and very low OBL blog comments).
    Daily sessions for weekdays increased from 3200 to 6000.
    So since the traffic is getting better slowly, I don't think that the site has any active penalty yet.
    The problem is that I did not see any effects from guest posts. But blog comments worked well and increased the traffic. (3200 to 6000)

    I selected Fiverr gigs with costs between 50-150 USD. I guess I spent more than $1500. I feel like I spent the money for nothing.

    Sometimes, one blog post from a relevant blog makes huge difference. I am surprised to see no effect from these authority websites.
    I plan to build second tier links to these articles? What kind of links do you suggest? I plan to build relevant and very low OBL blog comments.
     
  4. jon_xx_x

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    Are they do follow? I'm guessing most of them must be.
    Low OBL to them seems like a good plan. An article/link that just doesn't get any attention doesn't have a ton of value. But even still that many links should bring some attention.
     
  5. casperl

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    Yes they are. I did not buy nofollow ones.
     
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    There is trick even when you buy do follow High Authority Blogposts to trigger them in Google to see some results and in forced manner you should se results in 3-4 days not waiting whole month.If you leave it natural maybe will take about 2-3 months even more.Nobody knows how google act now with such links when on market spread all over that such links are on sale for low price.What you think google not taken some measure?
     
  7. casperl

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    What is that trick?

    I don't know. I asked to learn more about your experiences. So does it take some measure? Is this normal behavior?
    According to your message, you observed the same behavior. Let me know more about it.
     
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    xjapan Power Member

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    did you check the links indexed or not?
     
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    1. Go to each one of your guest post pages.

    2. Press Ctrl + F and type in "noindex"

    3. Realize you have just wasted $XXX on links that will never be crawled by google.

    4. Profit??
     
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    xjapan Power Member

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    the above step 1 should be Ctrl + U or right click then select View page source
     
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    Hi!

    1 - these types of guest posts are always great for SEO.

    2 - The guest posts would have a direct impact on your website if the links were "do follow". If they're not, here's what happens: you'll only benefit from traffic that'll be sent from them.

    3 - Here's what you've gotta take into account in order to measure the true impact of guest posts: the keyword (query) you've optimized on guest posts - in case you didn't just create branded links for your website.

    4 - If this wasn't the case, you've chosen to optimize certain pages from your website (for certain keywords). You should make sure that these pages have been duly optimized for the same keyword.

    As far as the period of time you should wait for in order to see effects, I can speak from experience: I only start getting positive results after a period of two to three weeks.

    Hope this has helped!

    Cheers!
     
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  12. casperl

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    Yes, most of them. 5+ of them are indexed in the same day. One of these posts became editor's choice.


    I assume that you are talking about "nofollow".

    1. Ctrl + F and type "nofollow" on this page

    2. You will see that I have already answered this :p

    Thanks for detailed answer. This is one of the few proper answers in this thread.

    Actually I have selected the most general and difficult keywords in my niche. Assume that it is a php forum, I selected keywords like "php", "php programming", "php tutorial" and "php tutorials".
    I had no chance to be in top 10 for "php". I had chance to be in top 10 for other keywords but it was difficult and I was not in top 100 at the time of posting the guest posts.

    Guess what I noticed today: I am in top 100 of "php tutorial" and "php tutorials" now. So it looks like I am seeing some serious effects.

    But interestingly, the overall traffic is not increasing (actually it is decreasing a little bit). This is the opposite of what I expected. I was expecting to have much better total traffic. Why did I expected that?
    Because the forum had 10x more traffic 3 years ago (now it has much more threads) and it has 70000+ natural discussion threads. So there are lots of easy long tail keywords to be in top10.
    By the way, most of the backlinks from guest posts were pointing to the homepage of the forum. I thought that the link juice would be distributed to all threads and my total traffic would jump because of long tail keywords.

    Did I make a mistake? Should we target specific keywords for these guest posts instead of distributing link juice with general keywords and homepage targeting?
     
  13. mbreezy

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    I would have spaced the articles out over a longer period. Paying for some white hat social promotions/shares would be good for them.
     
  14. askary

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    he meant "noindex", and you should check "noindex", not "nofollow"

    and you can check indexation with puting in google info:http://yourdonorlink
     
  15. casperl

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    Any suggestions? Where to buy them?

    As I said most of them are indexed already. But I will check for that too.
     
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    kiristbn Newbie

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    i think that google make effect with your site for 4 week or longer. But infact, if the backlinks for site are alots in a short, google will get it spam for the site. So, i think you should pause getting backlink at the time :D
     
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    Nofollow links do help a bit don't they? Trustflow or something?
     
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    First, please check if the link you bought is no-follow or ********? Since no-follow link will cause no-improvement in ranking.
    Second, I think SEO for forum is more difficult than normal website since the on-page SEO of a forum is more difficult to optimize.
     
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    From experience, it will take around 2 - 4 weeks before you begin seeing the effects of those links. In the meantime, I would build some cheap blog post links with LSI to them (Lover's service) and some cheap social signals (from SEOClerks). Since they're high authority domains, they can easily take those links and not be de-indexed. Does it help? I like to think so, but fuck if I know. It only costs like $50 and makes me sleep better at night.
     
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