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ECM Webinar-Blurred out stats REVEALED? Analysis Anyone?

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  1. dvno879

    dvno879 Regular Member

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    Hey,

    I was just following the ECM webinars that the one dude Greg Davis or something is doing, its somewhat hyped up and all, but I was just listening in just in case there was anything valuable, and he actually made a mistake and when the video played there was a split second that the stats werent blurred out, and I was able to save the screenshot, so here are the full stats of some of his campaigns.


    If any of you guys know what tracking platform that is, or what he uses to get ads to show up on CNN and the likes for the prices shown, feel free to discuss here.. and add anything else ofcourse as I can't make much of it as I dont know what platform it is...

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    Anyone!? Should help some people out to analyze his campaigns..
     
  3. coreone

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    He's using media buys and (maybe at first) CPV.

    Don't try to analyze his campaigns. You just need to get the job done and get started. The time spent trying to analyze a campaign that hasn't been scaled (and you don't have all of the info like exact pages) is just plain trouble.
     
  4. dvno879

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    Get started with media buys? Well if you did your homework you would know that you have to sign a IO and pay up front like 20k or something just to start.

    I want test smaller things before I cough up the dough, have fun getting the job done when your losing money not analyzing what works and what doesnt...
     
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    PS. Sure you can buy banners on forums and what not for cheap, but hes running on CNN, yahoo, etc which is what I want to get into... thats where the big bucks are made m'lady
     
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    Do my homework? Son, I am out of grade school. I have been doing media buys for years. I got going using Adbrite and then going directly to the publishers and getting IO's. Start with Adbrite and a few others before doing individual IO's. This way you can test and see if your campaign is scalable with particular domains.

    You can also check out Adsonar (which I think Advertising.com purchased).

    If you have any specific questions, just let me know.
     
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    Adsonar is AOL advertising at least thats what shows up when you search for it. Pmed you.
     
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    Hey,

    Have a look at this webinar "media buy overview":
    h**p://www.therockstaralliance.com/replay3.html
     
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    Has anyone had much success with Adsonar? I find their bidding system cool where you can bid specific positions, but most of the properties there are over 50 cents a click. I know people are profitable there though...just trying to figure out how.
     
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    I'm looking over those stats right now. It looks like almost all of those campaigns are losing money. His Cost Per Conversion is so high he would need to only be promoting offers that paid out $50+ each to profit. He has a column called Value Per Conversion which makes me think he's opting them into lists and then trying to get them to complete multiple offers once subscribed.

    That would be the only way he's making money.

    Also, his ads are crazy bad. His CTR is a thousandth of a percent on many of his campaigns. You need to understand that with CPV and Media your CTR will be low, but 1.2 million impressions with only 27 clicks? Yikes!

    I know the dude banks, but he's not banking on THESE particular campaigns. Also, I have a feeling his upcoming teaching will not be used much as his bankroll is probably six figures and it will cost you a few thousand to test multiple offers even if you get a good hook-up on a media buy for a few hundred bucks... you'd also need to actually profit to continue as well which doesn't always happen.

    It will be interesting to see what he reveals and instructs people to do at his seminar that don't have any capital to work with.
     
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