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Easily Make $500+ a Week. SO Easy Your Mum Could Probably Do it!

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by jimbo2087, Feb 19, 2010.

  1. jimbo2087

    jimbo2087 Regular Member

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    This is such a piss easy method with bascially no limit on how much you can make from it. It just sort of dawned on me that there was obviously money to be made...

    So basically if you have ever outsourced something before you will know that you can get quite a lot for a very good price. People in the Far east are now getting very efficient at things like web design, SEO, programming...virtually any technical skill can be outsourced now for a fraction of the price you would pay in the West.

    Most of us know this and use these services yet people in the UK and US still go to web design/seo companies and pay 1000s for a fairly basic site that some guy in India would of quite happily knocked up for a couple of hundred.

    So what do we do to cash in...Simple.

    1) Stick up a nice site offering webdesign/seo/php

    2) Build up the site and get some traffic rolling in via google, obviously target an easy keyword with a fair bit of traffic. If you want use PPC thats what I do.

    3)When you get business (and if your site is decent enough you will) simply go to getafreelancer dot com or elance and outsource it for half the price your charging!

    Basically thats the gist of it. It really is that simple. A few extra tips:

    You can sell a basic website or blog for 300 dollars EASY. Then you outsource for about 100 dollars (its worth paying for someone to build a decent site as you'll get less complaints and repeat business). Boom youve just made 200 bucks for about 10 minutes work. Get 2-3 quotes a week and youve got yourself a tidy living. You can just build more sites and get more traffic.

    The real key is when someone emails you asking for a quote for a site you need to really sell it to them, be quick off the mark emailing them back and write good english. Common sense stuff.

    Enjoy people.
     
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  2. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Have you ever worked with clients on a regular basis? It's not quite as easy as you make it sound...
     
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    Totally agreed. Getting the clients would be the tough part.
     
  4. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    I had a client who literally wasted 3 weeks of my time making change after change on what should have been a quick $300 job. I swore never to do it again lol
     
  5. sefi00

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    Yep. Total nightmare.

    This method is fine, but there's nothing "easy" about it.

    This is exactly what I mean. You'll get this all the time.
     
  6. meathead1234

    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    You need fantastic communication skills, a blackberry, VERY reliable staff (I actually outsource to people in the UK - costs a bit more but I can call them), 20 cigarettes, a shit load of patience and an excellent delivery method - but it does work, although takes A LOT more than "1 hour" per client. More like 20.
     
  7. thehilitereel

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    Also what's annoying is when you offer your service for a cheaper price than others and the client gets too picky. Some people are just too annoying to deal with.

    Raddles your nerves for sure.
     
  8. grabdavid

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    I do this as a bonus to my income. Been doing it for 2 years now. I use odesk, i find it easier to find cheaper developers with better skills. Best thing is to build a relationship with one team. The hard part is finding a team of developers that are good and well priced. Once you find them its gold. I receive 6- 10 leads a week 3-4 convert. Make sure you optimize for local search i.e buy a domain specific to your country. its much easier converting local clients. I sell Wordpress sites for $600 costs me $300, i pay a little more than the guy suggests above but the quality is probably better. Also always be sure you are making 50% profit. As you will need to charge 50% upfront so it covers your development costs and you will never be in the dark. Good Luck
     
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  9. lehpet

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    Read "Hidden Cash Formula" (available on this site, just search "Hidden Cash Formula.") It adds a twist to this that makes client complaints minimal--they get the site for free!

    He also has some killer tools for getting thorough info. about what the client wants.
     
  10. ExpertVision

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    exactly because it is NOT a easy way to make money this way I was looking to start IM and ended up on this forum :)... is very hard and waste a lot of time :)
     
  11. darkmobius

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    If what you said was true, i would have been very rich by now. If things were THIS PISS easy, that's a big IF.
    Selling a basic web site or blog for $300 easy? Please direct me to those clients, I will gladly pay you that $100 just for referring me. Or you can do what you said, pay me $100 I will do the work and you get to keep the $200.
     
  12. aмillionaírе

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    You'll end up developing a high blood pressure if you go down this route. Requires stern patience, which most of us don't have. Good luck, though.
     
  13. smack

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    oh man, amen!

    the horror stories i have of working with clients...

    i RARELY do any projects for anyone outside the scope of my immediate partners, and with good reason.

    for example, about two years back a couple of my "friends" that i have known literally for years wanted a simple brochure website. just static HTML, nothing fancy. since they were friends and just starting out with their business i told them i would gladly throw up a simple 5 - 7 page site for them for cheap (i ended up charging $150). i even offered to host it on my server for a small monthly fee ($20).

    sounded like a good deal for both of us. they get a site cheap as chips, i make a couple bucks for grunt work and help out some friends just starting their business.

    what a fool i was.

    i did the initial site design, set up their emails (@companyX.com), got it up on my host, and even took initiative to register their domain name because they were dragging their feet on it. made sure all the body copy they had sent me was up there exactly as they had typed it.

    then the problems started. daily for several weeks i would get emails about misspellings or necessary grammar changes on the site. then they would bitch at me for not proofreading what they had sent to me before i placed it on their site.

    i'm sorry, but i am not a copywriter, nor a proofreader. i am a developer. if you send me something i assume it is correct, format it for the web, and put it up. if you don't know how to use spell check that's your own damn fault. also as it pertains to grammar it's not really my place to go around correcting what you have typed. i don't know if you specifically stated something in some way for a particular reason, so i am not going to go monkeying around with your text.

    then the major requests started coming in. can you add pages? can you make us a dynamic catalog that we can enter things in? can you provide us with the ability to process payments online? what about an e-com cart?

    argh. we had went over several times the fact that the website i was building them was the simplest and quickest possible implementation that wouldn't allow for things like dynamic online catalogs or e-commerce, which apparently they either didn't pay attention to or did not understand.

    several months in to being their daily bitch i told them flat out that this was taking up too much of my time and i needed to move on to other projects i could actually make money with. i was cordial and explained that from now on any changes would require an hourly billing of $10 (still trying to accommodate them as friends. $10/hr, most outsourcers work for more than that!). they shot back that the $20/mo they were paying me (for hosting mind you) should cover any changes to the website they wanted. i had already explained many times over what that charge was a pass through cost(i made absolutely nothing off of it) and was specifically their site hosting and email service, nothing else.

    at this point i still had not been paid for the original work on the site and the updates, which as i said before i quoted them at $150. which is a freaking steal in my opinion. most templated sites that would require someone to set up cost somewhere in that vicinity.

    so we haggled on for several more weeks about the initial payment. i finally got my money, which at this point with all the time i had put in worked out to somewhere about $3/hr. nothing like working for slave wages.

    to add another layer of annoyance around this time they started ignoring my monthly bills for their hosting and email costs. it got to the point where they were late so many times i had to start turning off their website when they wouldn't pay. what a headache.

    eventually we parted ways and not a second too soon!

    so the lesson here is two fold. clients can be the most pesky, annoying people around. make sure you have a contract and other signed documentation pertaining to the fees and costs involved as well as the work expected.

    the other point is don't do business with friends. treat them as any other joe schmoe you would meet. if you give them special considerations 9 times out of 10 they will take advantage of it.

    i have other stories about clients as well, but that will have to wait for another thread ;)

    so thanks to clients like those (and a few others) i generally flat out refuse to do any kind of IT work for anyone else who isn't one of my partners. it may cut down a little bit on revenue, but when you do a cost/benefit for your time, you almost always come out on top.
     
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    Hah sounds like there are some horror stories about...

    I wont lie I have had a few tricky moments but there are a few things you can do to keep the issues to a mininum...

    Firstly I make everyone fill out a form detailing exactly how they want there blog to look, then it says at the bottom if they want any significant changes made they have to pay extra. Most of the time people just want a few little tweaks so its not problem, as soon as you ask them for more money though they just shut up.

    People push like crazy to get extras and constantly ask to add stuff but if you give it to them at a good price in the first place and then just ask for more money they usually shut up.

    I dont take a job unless 50% is paid upfront which easily covers design costs. They dont get to see it till its done and then if they bitch then can pay to get things changed (which they never do) or fuck off. Its not like they can leave a review or anything so I dont really care all that much if they love it or not. Even if they refuse to pay the extra 50% you can still usually profit slightly so its no biggy.
     
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    oh and as for getting clients, im currently spending about $10-15 a day on PPC and getting 1-2 request a day. I would say about 30% of people take a blog so its well worth it.
     
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    you'd be happier just selling an established site on ebay or something like that.....
     
  17. Saberu

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    This thread is a fail for a number of reasons:

    A) Niches like web design are some of the most competitive out there so you'd need good blackhat skills to even rank at all.

    B) Every man and his web design site was already outsourcing even years ago and any BH worth his salt on BHW forums will KNOW this goes on and that there is cheap labour available in Phil/India etc, there is no revelation inside this thread.

    C) See points A+B as I thought they were pertinent enough to mention twice.

    Even despite bhw being riddled with newbies a quick look through the thread and almost everyone knows you are talking shit, well done.
     
  18. Incomeplete

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    seems a little too much work for some people that want to start low