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Duplicate Content and Indexing (Myth)

Discussion in 'Blogging' started by Alexanderia0007, Feb 14, 2009.

  1. Alexanderia0007

    Alexanderia0007 Junior Member

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    I want to outline the fact that duplicate content, is a myth.

    A week ago, I had set up around 10 blogs and 1 CMS on a single web hosting acount (non seo). ALl blogs had duplicate content from articles base.

    I focused on promoting 1 blog, doing seo for that blog only as I was v busy selling my SEO/KW Research service for clients. Basicly my blog that I was promoting got indexed in 24 hours, and started gettign around 20 unique hits a day.

    12 hours after being indexed it went down. and so did a bunch of other blogs that I had. I went to investigate with google on their webmaster forums, and the reply I got was that my blog was removed because it had articles - word for word from articles base (the even provided the corresponding link). This was done by their "gurus" but not official google employees. They pointed this out in google DC warning.

    Now, after 48 hours, I updated, pinged some of my backlinks, url's and I found that a further 12 hours past that my blogs were up and around 6/10 blogs and 1 CMS was indexed and included in googles index system.

    This just outlines that duplicate content is an urban myth, and that if yo get de-indexed by google at an early stage, it is due to a sandbox test or server updates.

    I want to urge you, when in doubt, faced with a similar situation; do not panic and do not assume the worst. Simply move on to other projects (blogger projects are good for en-masse systems) whilst pinging your blog once a day or so, doing general maintenance. Eventually, it should be updated in a few days and be reindexed again.

    Regards,
    Alex
     
  2. mark9510

    mark9510 Regular Member

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    I still think if it gets taken down and the put back up its flagged and looked at more carefully
     
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    xbox360gurl70s Elite Member

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    for premium keywords like the 2 worded ones. I doubt you can rank high
     
  4. Alexanderia0007

    Alexanderia0007 Junior Member

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    What do you mean premium?

    You mean long tailed keywords? On the contary, you it is the EASIEST way to get ranked high. If you try ranking high for keyword like "hair" you are NEVER going to achieve it. Try ranking high for "hair style", and you find it 100 times easier.
     
  5. eskimo

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    give it a bit more time, big G will take you down
     
  6. skorpion

    skorpion Regular Member

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    i filled a blog with 25 unique articles and am now posting two new PLR articles (that many other sites are using) everyday automatically. My site is streadily increasing rank in google....I think Im on the 2nd or 3rd page now and gaining on some pretty big sites. I started this site like 3-4 weeks ago. Dup content is a myth.
     
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    xbox360gurl70s Elite Member

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    When I said premium I meant the best keywords like the ones that many others are targeting e.g. premium paints [ best paints in the hardware store ]

    do you think you can rank with dupe content for keywords like cheap computers, top gadgets, best medicine etc. for dupe copied content? I doubt it


     
  8. Alexanderia0007

    Alexanderia0007 Junior Member

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    Yes you can, I dont see why now. Ranking high in google has nougt to do with Dupe Content, but more with SEO. Lead a good SEO campaign and you can rank high for anything. Google doesnt analyse content or keywords for rank, it analyses the amount of backlinks and the quality of backlinks.
     
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    justmeron Power Member

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    Also I think google meant the entire site can't be a duplicate or mirror to another site. When you updated the blogs were the updates diff. ? Therefore making the sites diff. and unique. Even though you used duplicate content the entire page is what google looks at.
     
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    xbox360gurl70s Elite Member

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    Give me a few sample of sites that has copied content and rank on competitive terms?

    I can sure give you hundreds of my sites that rank with duplicate content on them but with long tails, but I am yet to rank on terms like buy nokia, buy sony cam.
     
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    I think the point is Google gives it up to the big corporation like sonny and nokia and so on (except the people that know how to piggy back) to get the myth going about dup content they meant dup site I am doing pretty good with dup content but I can not get past the corporation sites. I think they hire people who use to work for Google to build the sites are its that Google gives it up for them but dup content is a myth ...............
     
  12. metaldragon

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    dupe content WILL get you deindexed. I've had a aged site that had all dupe content from other site eventually deindexed.

    All the dupe content = deindexed and its harder to indexed uniquew content on the same domain.

    All the unique content is still indexed but google has removed all the dupe content after time.
     
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    lafours Power Member

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    I've never had a problem with dupe content and google shouldn't either- Google News is the biggest dupe content site out there :)
     
  14. zhwriter

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    Using duplicate content is still exploitation of the web in terms of how you make money online. Eventually, google might not be so generous on dupe content for non-authority sites once they change their ways for real. Google has already been tough on implementing their social media slap in the past few months. I don't think dupe content will be sustainable in the long term, unless it's from wikihow, about.com, or any of those similar authority sites.
     
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    Why do we continue to have this discussion?

    If duplicate content was a problem only EZA would ever rank for an article, but of course we know that there are usually hundreds of others as well (some of my articles come up over 2000 times on various directories and sites in Google). I've got one site in particular that I setup as a test nearly 3 years ago. It's 100% untouched PLR on a single subject. Because of a little (and I do mean little) backlinking I now rank #1 in Yahoo for ALL the terms I targetted.

    There is no duplicate penalty, just duplicate ranking. Our job is to get ranked #1 and that's usually as much a function of time as linking.
     
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    Of course you can rank on top for highly competitive keywords with dupe content, it all boils down to authority. The reason you don't see it often is people who are lazy and scrape content are also too lazy to get the links and authority to do it.

    If Wiki scraped my article on "Credit" they would most likely rank front page for the term.

    Speaking of Wiki, i have a site that is an exact copy of Wiki and it gets around 10k visits per day and 1.2 million pages indexed.. Which kind of ruins the theory you can't have a duplicate site.
     
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    even if you don't get penalized if some has already seen everything on your site they well leave... I think that its really hard for Google to figure out if its dupe...so i don't think its a myth just think that it takes a while for Google to find out. and by then you have enough links to stay on top...
     
  18. dikoro

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    myth or not, i think reading what google has to say first is a smart move, here:
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    http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/06/duplicate-content-summit-at-smx.html