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Drop Shipping Vs Buying In Bulk And Shipping Yourself

Discussion in 'Ebay' started by rhino2020, Oct 11, 2011.

  1. rhino2020

    rhino2020 Junior Member

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    I've bought in bulk since I start selling rep's and ship out under a alias name via the post office at the next town over from me. I've read where other members like Green Goblin have said drop shipping is the way to go. But my question is does the long ship time and seeing that it came from China not throw up a huge red flag? If I bought a LV bag and it came from China I would automatically assume it was a replica.I've had no issues getting my stuff into the country so far. For those of you who buy in bulk where do you have your items shipped to and under a alias or real name?
     
  2. logical

    logical Newbie

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    I've done both, with chinese electronics not replicas, i sold a lot more stuff once i started physically holding and shipping. People prefer the faster shipping, not risking import and all the other problems of things coming from china. Plus when i told people it was dispatched i knew it had been...i didnt have to worry about the dropshipper disappearing between shipments.
     
  3. SassyWriter

    SassyWriter Registered Member

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    I've always preferred to do it myself. That way I know for a fact that my customers are getting the best product, and the best customer service.
     
  4. stressfree

    stressfree Senior Member

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    yes guys but O.P is talking about replicas...you are talknig abour legit....Appels and oranges i think.
     
  5. stressfree

    stressfree Senior Member

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    O.P...I'd like to talk to you as I have struggled with this as well. PM me
     
  6. morris14ccm

    morris14ccm Newbie

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    Definitely prefer to ship it myself. Too often one of the sellers I buys from tells me my shipment got "lost", when I doubt they ever shipped it, and I have to wait.
     
  7. hitch

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    When I used to buy and sell replicas I was stupid, I used to have 100+ shirts shipped to my parents hours.. shirts, shoes, wallets, all that crap. Keep in mind, this was back in 2005-2006.

    I received atleast 5 letters from port authority saying they seized my items.

    I almost got sued by Chanel USA.

    Needless to say, I don't mess with that crap anymore.

    If you must, your best bet is to dropship directly to the customer. The only bad thing is 1) ship time 2) when they get an item from China they will be like WTF.. so you should have plenty of ebay usernames ready.
     
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  8. rhino2020

    rhino2020 Junior Member

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    Yea not to smart there bro. I have ten items at a time broken up over 5 different addresses sent via usps. What shipping service did you use? Your problem was it got seized and yet you continued the same process. The first time something gets seized, consider that type item over with and that address gone. They watch what goes to that address after the first seizure.
     
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  9. hitch

    hitch Regular Member

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    This was a long time ago, when it was a little easier and before ebay had limits. I was able to sell about 20 chanel wallets per day, 10 pairs of shoes and about 5-10 "sets" of 5 different colors of lacoste polos.

    From China it was all sent EMS, in the US I used USPS to ship out.

    I literally went from being in debt to having plenty of cash on hand. I sold items before I even had stock , so the first week of buyers, they would usually have to wait about 2 weeks to get their stuff but hey, they eventually got it, and most were pleased.. you can't really do that now with ebay's DSR's, as you'll for sure get 1's and 2's for ship time! lol ahh the good ol days!


    Now I get items shipped in via sea freight which saves a lot of money on shipping, it's a helluva lot slower, but if you get 1 massive shipment per month you're good to go.

    And incase you're wondering, I no longer sell bootlegs.
     
  10. burgers

    burgers Junior Member

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    Both buying in bulk and drop shipping are acceptable, it depends on your niche and what lifestyle you want. Drop shipping allows you more freedom as you don't have to worry about storage, physically shipping items but buying in bulk and shipping yourself allows you more control over your quality and providing your customers good service. I've done both, and now I manufacture items and drop ship for others, something I want to get out of as I want a more location and time independent business. I'm hoping Adsense and CPA is the key =P
     
  11. rhino2020

    rhino2020 Junior Member

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    20 Chanel wallets a day? damn no wonder they wanted to sue you. I sell 2 items per account per month but I have over 20 accounts. Was you using stealth accounts or real info? If you go stealth account only time your really "exposed" is when your shipping stuff in.
     
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  12. hitch

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    I was using all stealth accounts. However, some how, they found my personal email (an aol email addy) that they sent the official C&D to. They wanted me to fax over my inventory sheet and a whole bunch of other information. I ignored the letter, and immediately ceased my operation. I was left with probably 50 wallets that I eventually just gave away to local friends and family. Greed got the best of me.

    Now, I discourage people from selling bootlegs. It's just not a sustainable business. You're better off researching ebay for niches that provide longevity. Less margins of course (in most cases), but you will have peace of mind. I have been 2 years free of having an account suspended. I'm no longer paranoid of waking up and seeing the account limited emails and suspended emails. I find it much easier to create an account, link it to another account and have zero limits. I do this when I get into new niches.

    At the end of the day, if you are running a legitimate business, your attitude becomes less of "It's me vs ebay" - granted.. their fee's suck, it's nearly impossible to keep a track on your variable costs involved, but just make sure you have cushy margins and you'll be alright.
     
  13. rhino2020

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    I'm only turning 50 items a month over 25 accounts. Way less than what you were doing. How long did it last at that pace? I Haven't had any issues so far.
     
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    @Hitch, they are not allowed to send you a C&D through email, they have to send it by letter. So I am guessing everything you told us is complete BS.
     
  15. rhino2020

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    Maybe not bs. I think he really did get a c&d. Your correct in they have to send a certified letter in the mail or have a deputy serve you. It was either the company preying upon him not knowing that or could have been a fellow seller wanting to scare him away.
     
  16. hitch

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    I'm glad you think so. And whether you think it's BS or not does not change the fact that I receive an email directly from Chanel.

    Additionally, there are a ton of sellers who have received letters (emails) from designers. Chanel and LV both sued ebay a few years ago which is when ebay started to crack down.. google that, I won't get into the details.

    I've been selling on ebay since 2001, I've had atleast 50 accounts. I now sell on ebay and use a fullfilment company (no, not amazon..they are way over priced) to handle all of my orders, returns, etc.

    I may not be the greatest at SEO , CPA, building sites, etc.. but one thing I know how to do is make money on ebay legitimately. It has been a while since I've sold bootlegs, and I don't think I'll ever go back down that route.. there is no sustainability.

    Thank you for your comment rootkey, I'm pretty sure you're wrong.
     
  17. stressfree

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    how do you get so many accounts and addresses?

     
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    $400 profit each time....what do you think Rhin0 is selling? Laptops? What else can get you $400 profit?

     
  19. Getwhatchuwant

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    Well if you are buying from China, buying bulk is the way to go. The long ship times suck and also the high cost of shipping makes it smarter to buy a bunch at once then you can ship out to each customer once they order.

    I am not sure why so many ppl in the US still buy from China when we have some good drop shipping options in the US that are legit, legal and real.
    I guess when it comes to designer replicas I understand since you might have a hard time finding a knock off of a legit company here.
     
  20. Getwhatchuwant

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    I agree, if they want to they have the resources to find you. I am surprised that alot of the items made it into the US at all. Many times customs will just identify it as fake and hold it. What can you do then? call them and ask them for the product? LOL no! Then the companies themselves can and will go after you if they catch you. The attorney they have on retainer in their corp office is already making a salary, may as well put him to use.