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Dramatically ranking drop in 3 days?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Maqsood Rahman, Mar 9, 2017.

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Did you experience any drop ranking?

  1. 1st of week of March 2017

    27.3%
  2. 2nd of week of March 2017

    9.1%
  3. No I do not

    63.6%
  1. Maqsood Rahman

    Maqsood Rahman Newbie

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    Does anybody experience any dramatically ranking drop in 3 to 5 days?
    SEroundtable claims there is big change in google algorithm related to links does anybody experience anything related to backlinks and top ranking keyword push down to 2nd page?

    Thank you.
     
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    Google on average makes changes daily... big changes to the algorithms would effect everybody. Current events do not. This smacks more of a spam filter. So some common tactic is probably being targeted better and its effects on rankings are likely being discounted. I do believe Google uses basic AI and they probably have a training set of known web spam websites to train those AI components. Something as mundane as updating the training set to include fresh web spam could cause this kind of collateral impact without shaking up the SERPs over all.

    One approach to avoid hate from the algorithm is to anticipate what Google is likely to find in the web spam training set and to be different from that. If you follow my posts I often show charts demonstrating that H4 keyword matches correlate strongly and H1 matches not so much. One explanation could simply be that exploiting H1 is commonplace in the training set and using H4 is uncommon. Simply by being a pattern in opposition to the training set might actually be algorithmically important. Just a hypothesis, but having worked with machine learning systems in the past I know they can and often do behave this way.

    Here is a change table for factors that correlate from the first week of this month and today.

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    Of the stuff that is statistically significant (the orange correlations) it is mostly unchanged meaning that the same factors that mattered most before are still on the list of factors that mostly matter today.

    When we look at changes in page 1 results for the search terms we see minor movement:

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    So this doesn't look like a wide sweeping change to the algorithm. This hints that the bulk of what changed probably happened on pages 2+ in the SERPs. Those results are known to be volatile.
     
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    Seem to be particularly targeting certain niches and not a World Wide Web phenomenon as is generally with their algorithmic update. It seem more towards targeting specific spam than "all spam".
     
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    i agree with the page 2 + theory..

    in my niche, most of the sites (with PBN links ) on first page are still intact.
     
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    It is because google is updating every day and it is affecting everybody. There are many people out in the google's playground kicked out of the strong positions. One can hope for the best and keep on doing the best practice to get back on the playground.
     
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    Same reply as yesterday;


    Some stuff goes up,
    Some stuff goes down,
    Some stuff stays the same;
    Just another day.
     
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    OK, I get a response from the affected site owner and his major keyword was "business opportunity" was ranked in google top 5 for Google.co.za results.
    After analyzing his website content and backlink profile we found more that 2090 backlinks from 100 domain and none of this link meets basic standard guideline for link building.
    Now, google does not show that website in search results at all.

    So it seems Links Related algorithm update. If anyone experience any top rated keyword disappear from Google recently please share your experience here or fell free to PM me.
     
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    For that keyword here are the factor correlations:

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  10. seoz87

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    can you please explain your tool. Also is it free and can you send me?