Don't buy this program

Ok I signed up for ************************.com the guy offered a refund .

Yet he will not refund ,so warning anyone buying this ....

cant you take it up with paypal to get your money back, looks like the method is paypal

I'm not sure what the product is, but if it is a digital product or service, then you are probably screwed. This is usually in their Buyer Protection Terms of Service and I have yet to get a refund when disputing such a transaction.

As I've said before, never use paypal to buy digital products, always use a cc, you're safer, you can just call them and say you don't know where the charge came from and they will charge it back.

neilparnham said:

cant you take it up with paypal to get your money back, looks like the method is paypal

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It will take years to get his money back even though if he does this.

twinkle88 said:

It will take years to get his money back even though if he does this.

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You are being a bit dramatic. It will take from a couple of weeks to a month or two depending on a lot of factors.

next time pay with a credit card thru paypal. i know someone that just got their money back from clickbanger doing that.

Another tard selling stuff from my forum ? sighs i can put a bet on it is

Paypal does nothing I am doing a chargeback . Your forum offers everything he has without the cost ..

Thanks for warnning we'll be patient

now it seem site is down www.*****************.com and forum too .. cguru:

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This is login area anyone good at hacking in ? I paid but he screwed me out of refund .

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Paypal usually goes with the buyer on this, don't they?

You should have just gone with Harros website through this site.

fourgee said:

Paypal usually goes with the buyer on this, don't they?

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They usually go with the buyer. They go with the seller if he can give solid proof that the product was delivered. Yet, if the buyer wants a refund and the product is returnable (in this case software can be canceled or deleted) they tend towards the seller.

If you buy a product with paypal using funds from your credit card, then call the credit card company and cancel the sale, it doesn't matter if the seller wins at paypal: the seller is screwed, he can never see the money and if he made a previous withdrawal (and has a negative balance) the seller must return the money to paypal. This is the way many scammers work,

There are several ways for the seller to protect himself:
1-try for the product to have minimal cost (selling a laptop (high cost of product, high risk) vs selling e-book (no cost)
2-maybe the product can be canceled (like a membership for example)
3-check if the buyer is paypal verified (anybody can submit a credit card to paypal, they charge 1 dollar for verification on CC, then you check your charge and submit the last 4 digits - proves the credit card is yours).
4-check the age of the account (old accounts are less prone to scams, since if they scammed once they are closed).
5-check buyer reputation - (check how many verified buyers bought from this paypal member)

The item 4 and 5 I'm not sure how to do it anymore.

Hope I could help out and provide extra info.

Hey guys and gals,

I got taken by this guy as well. Paypal denied the refund today. I may take it up with my bank and see if they will reverse the charge.

What is really bad is the guy didn't have jack in the stupid site. I logged in and knew right away that this was subpar crap and I am a newbie.

He claimed that he had 500 spots (if I remember right) and 100 some odd spots left. I log in and there are 5 or so members registered in the forum.

One pdf for download and no videos at all.

What a scammer!

Stay away from this guy!

Blackie

Yeah I joined it too after getting an email for it (I suspect from someone from this forum from whom I requested info). The login is not working I see, so he's done a runner already. I was going to ask for a refund so it seems that you saved me the trouble. I'll just cancel my sub now.

Why did you want a refund? Was the product of poor quality or did it just not do anything at all?

Damn thats foul. I'm curious though: What kinda sales materials did he use to get you to part with your money? Was it all flash & glitter ---did he promise you the moon, or what?

My take on it: If it worked for him in the past, he's sure to repeat the process. So what should we be on the lookout for?

He basically had a good sales page about his PPI course with how to vids and such. You sign up and log in and have access to a stupid forum with little to no useful info and 13 members. I asked for a refund because as soon as I logged in the first time, I knew this was a joke. He had a 30 day refund policy with no questions asked. So if you get an email from informus (Richard) at *********** It is a SCAM! If this guy is hanging around here somewhere he should be booted asap! I'm just saying!

Blackie