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Don't buy this program

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by superman, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. superman

    superman BANNED BANNED

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    Ok I signed up for ********************* the guy offered a refund .

    Yet he will not refund ,so warning anyone buying this ....
     
  2. neilparnham

    neilparnham Junior Member

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    cant you take it up with paypal to get your money back, looks like the method is paypal
     
  3. PuppetMaster

    PuppetMaster Registered Member

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    I'm not sure what the product is, but if it is a digital product or service, then you are probably screwed. This is usually in their Buyer Protection Terms of Service and I have yet to get a refund when disputing such a transaction.
     
  4. lonny41

    lonny41 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    As I've said before, never use paypal to buy digital products, always use a cc, you're safer, you can just call them and say you don't know where the charge came from and they will charge it back.
     
  5. twinkle88

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    It will take years to get his money back even though if he does this.
     
  6. Steeky

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    You are being a bit dramatic. It will take from a couple of weeks to a month or two depending on a lot of factors.
     
  7. vmedia

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    next time pay with a credit card thru paypal. i know someone that just got their money back from clickbanger doing that.
     
  8. HaRRo

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    Another tard selling stuff from my forum ? sighs i can put a bet on it is :D
     
  9. superman

    superman BANNED BANNED

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    Paypal does nothing I am doing a chargeback . Your forum offers everything he has without the cost ..
     
  10. Carnagge

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    Thanks for warnning :) we'll be patient ;)
     
  11. superman

    superman BANNED BANNED

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    now it seem site is down http://www.payperinstallcash.com and forum too .. :pcguru:
     
  12. superman

    superman BANNED BANNED

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    http://payperinstallcash.com/members/member.php

    This is login area anyone good at hacking in ? I paid but he screwed me out of refund .

    http://payperinstallcash.com/forum/index.php?action=profile





    ...
     
  13. fourgee

    fourgee Newbie

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    Paypal usually goes with the buyer on this, don't they?
     
  14. wedge421

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    You should have just gone with Harros website through this site.
     
  15. Surgeon

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    They usually go with the buyer. They go with the seller if he can give solid proof that the product was delivered. Yet, if the buyer wants a refund and the product is returnable (in this case software can be canceled or deleted) they tend towards the seller.

    If you buy a product with paypal using funds from your credit card, then call the credit card company and cancel the sale, it doesn't matter if the seller wins at paypal: the seller is screwed, he can never see the money and if he made a previous withdrawal (and has a negative balance) the seller must return the money to paypal. This is the way many scammers work,

    There are several ways for the seller to protect himself:
    1-try for the product to have minimal cost (selling a laptop (high cost of product, high risk) vs selling e-book (no cost)
    2-maybe the product can be canceled (like a membership for example)
    3-check if the buyer is paypal verified (anybody can submit a credit card to paypal, they charge 1 dollar for verification on CC, then you check your charge and submit the last 4 digits - proves the credit card is yours).
    4-check the age of the account (old accounts are less prone to scams, since if they scammed once they are closed).
    5-check buyer reputation - (check how many verified buyers bought from this paypal member)

    The item 4 and 5 I'm not sure how to do it anymore.

    Hope I could help out and provide extra info.
     
  16. Black Beret

    Black Beret Newbie

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    Hey guys and gals,

    I got taken by this guy as well. Paypal denied the refund today. I may take it up with my bank and see if they will reverse the charge.

    What is really bad is the guy didn't have jack in the stupid site. I logged in and knew right away that this was subpar crap and I am a newbie.

    He claimed that he had 500 spots (if I remember right) and 100 some odd spots left. I log in and there are 5 or so members registered in the forum.

    One pdf for download and no videos at all.

    What a scammer!

    Stay away from this guy!

    Blackie
     
  17. ninjagert

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    Yeah I joined it too after getting an email for it (I suspect from someone from this forum from whom I requested info). The login is not working I see, so he's done a runner already. I was going to ask for a refund so it seems that you saved me the trouble. I'll just cancel my sub now.:(
     
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    Why did you want a refund? Was the product of poor quality or did it just not do anything at all?
     
  19. StillSmiling

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    Damn thats foul. I'm curious though: What kinda sales materials did he use to get you to part with your money? Was it all flash & glitter ---did he promise you the moon, or what?

    My take on it: If it worked for him in the past, he's sure to repeat the process. So what should we be on the lookout for?
     
  20. Black Beret

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    He basically had a good sales page about his PPI course with how to vids and such. You sign up and log in and have access to a stupid forum with little to no useful info and 13 members. I asked for a refund because as soon as I logged in the first time, I knew this was a joke. He had a 30 day refund policy with no questions asked. So if you get an email from informus (Richard) at **************** It is a SCAM! If this guy is hanging around here somewhere he should be booted asap! I'm just saying!

    Blackie