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Domain vs Page Backlinks

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by tygrus, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. tygrus

    tygrus Supreme Member

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    What are the implications if your competition has only a few page backlinks related to your niche, but their over all domain has tens of thousands. For instance, the niche I found has competition on a page from shopping.com. That single page only has 60 or so backlinks, but the root domain (shopping.com) has millions.

    Can a person still beat that single page if the root domain is that strong?
     
  2. tygrus

    tygrus Supreme Member

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    sorry, never got an answer so I am bumping.
     
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    All the major retailers - amazon, shopping.com, nextag etc - are extremely hard to beat. I would not attempt it. This is why I don't go anywhere near electronics niches. Google knows these sites are reputable and provide a secure service to customers.

    I would go so far as to say it's easier to beat wikipedia than these sites.
     
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    But aren't you trying to beat that single page, not the domain. Only the page backlinks are your competition aren't they, not the domain links?
     
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    yes, it's hard to beat shopping.com and any other major retailer.
    i have try it several times and still not get great result.

    i think on site like this they get google trust.

    and it's hard to get trust from google for new site, so i think if you want to compete with that trusted site, one thing you can do is to build google trust.

    how to do that, in my opinion one factor to build google trust is keep make some quality backlink around the keyword and make good quality content to your site.

    it can make google to trust your site and make impact to SERP.
     
  7. saasy

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    I just don't see a reason why you can't beat those pages..??? and I will mirror mosterclick by saying that you give me a great domain or even having the keyword in your URL will cetainly help..
     
  8. Micallef

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    When I said don't bother trying to beat these pages, what I meant was:

    It's not a smart use of your time and energy to try these difficult niches if you are trying to make your living from IM. I mark down a niche as difficult if it has several of these shopping pages on the first page. Google is more vigilant of these profitable, buying niches, and blackhat tactics will not get you anywhere near as far as you would get in other, easier niches.

    Sure, if you already make a comfortable living and want a long term challenge, then good luck to you. Who knows what 6 months, great content and a perfect backlink strategy will do.

    Bullshit!!!
     
  9. nelif

    nelif Newbie

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    From my personal experience using keyword in as domain eg. "keyword.com" did assisted me to rank for #1 for "keyword" with only a few backlinks. The site was full of dup contents as it pulls products descriptions from amazon.

    But it was short lived only lasted about 2 weeks before the site was out of sight. It is back up now after building more links at position below those shopping.com sites. Hope this little experience helps. :)