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Domain Name Conflict High PR Networks SEO Marketplace. Please Advice if I can use domain

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by CommercialMedia.ca, Feb 24, 2012.

  1. CommercialMedia.ca

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    Hey Guys! I am the owner of HighPRNetworks.com website which I am building FOR "High PR Network" Service Providers to Advertise ALL their SEO in 1 Marketplace. However it will be with a GROUPON Style twist - where you will be able to find 50%+ Discounts on your Memberships for your backbuilding SEO.

    However, there is 1 site called: highprnetwork.com as well - and the owners say they do not like/approve me having their name in my url with an "S" in the end. They argue they have worked hard to promote their own networks and I am planning to create a marketplace for any network service provider to Promote their Network on my site.

    So my question is: should I listen to them and maybe I am not right and change my name (Even though my name Expresses EXACTLY what I am intended to do and Target that specific niche) or I am not allowed to use it?


    I am building this Marketplace in good faith to everyone (Network Providers and SEO Buyers) and I thought they would be Happy since I will be promoting and spending my own money on all SEO FORUMS, Communities to find them customers in Groupon Style DEALS. I even offered them to JV together or be Featured on Home Page Permanently - but they don't seem to like it anyway of me having their name in my site url.

    What can you guys recommend? AM I Allowed to use my own Targeted HighPRNetworks.com great domain or should I change it? By law, am I doing anything wrong?
     
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  2. Mountaineer

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    By law, you aren't doing anything wrong unless he has Trademarked that domain name. Morally, it depends on your personal choice.
     
  3. CommercialMedia.ca

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    anyone else has an opinion? Thank you Mountaineer!
     
  4. LazySeoEr

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    I'd be weary of the possibility ..........

    You'll need to ask yourself how to work with the other company or face possibilities that could be completely out of your control.
     
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    Even if the name were trademarked, it would be difficult to defend a trademark for an industry recognized term that is not related to their business.

    If they don't like your domain, let them offer up the $ to pry it out of your hands. Otherwise they may be able to sue you, depending on the geographic location of both parties. Of course they can try disputing rights to the domain through ICANN, but I doubt that would fly as the domain reflects not a business but a service which is commonly known in the internet marketing community.

    In other words, fuck them. Build your site and be as successful as you can be. :D
     
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    I mean I don't want to fuck no one. I was super nice to them all the way. I even told them I can sell it to them after they offered me to buy it but I am not selling it for $20 cuz I need to BUY another good domain. I was actually trying to build this site for them to advertise on, not to have a conflict of interest, in good faith.
     
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    You offered to sell a brand new domain that cost you $20 to us for $5000, yes that was very nice :)

    We offered to work with you and even purchase you a new domain to help you out as the idea you had seems to be semi-decent.

    All we asked is that you didn't setup a site using a name so close to ours and your logo even looks like a rip off of ours.
     
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    what you purchased a domain FOR ME? when did I ask you about that?
    I made the logo myself by the way I told you - using my own skills and GooglePR logo. I've been very open and friendly, and you were telling me to fu.. off and stuff. Yes I am asking 5K for the domain if you really want me to change it because I found a domain that is for sale and I am not paying it from my credit card - it's you who is asking me to change.

    I wish there was another good name available so I can take it but not highprnetworkreviews long like this. my name expresses exactly what I am planning to promote - simple. and I thought you would be happy to know I could find you customers on my own expense.
     
  9. nik-0

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    Oh boy, he didn't buy you a domain yet, he is offering to buy you a domain, but it seems you are not very interested :)

    I would change my logo if it look similiar though, if they "would" start a case and it looks like a ripoff then you have less chance. Other then that I think your allowed to take a name that is so general. There is nothing brand'ish about high pr network

    I think I would have offered it for sale for $5k as well :D actually I'm in the same situation, but it turns out that guy had the Google Analytics wrongly installed, so I could see his stats. I emailed them and suggested it but they never replied back, while I silently hoped that they would start communicating with me and perhaps buying the domain from me but the fuckers didn't even reply back to say thank you.
     
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    What we care about is you using a domain that so closely matches ours and a logo that looks like a ripoff of ours, and maybe its just because english doesn't seem to be your native language but from our conversation you acted rude but again it may be because you don't speak english as a first language..

    Furthermore this is probably a conversation to be finished one on one in PM's or on skype rather than in a public forum.... I, probably like most other people, don't care much about two people having an argument publicly.


    Except for the fact that its trademarked and so is the logo.
     
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    I say let's cut it in the middle, give him the friendly sum of $2500,- and we don't talk about it anymore. :dunce:
     
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    please show me the Trademark. I never seen it in TESS gov system. Guys, it's just hard to find a good name these days especially in the SEO niche. I found one but i need to pay from my visa, I don't want to.

    I am never rude, you were with your partners rude by telling me to Fuc Off on skype and not willing to communicate further. So I had to ask it from others.

    And I do live in Canada since I was 5 so this has nothing to do with language skills - I should say like you told me "don't insult my intelligence". The problem is - there is no problem! I would of promote this domain and I see it as a help to your business - especially - that was my intention. Period. Now if you change your mind about buying the domain, please let me know your offer.
     
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    ok I wouldn't mind.
     
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    Ok seems the deal is closed as good as well, only need yes from the other party, don't forget that I claim 10% as well cause of negotiating.
     
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    OP,

    You asked for opinions so here is mine:

    1) Whether you knew about the other site before you bought the domain or not, IF they have an actual trademark, then I would highly suggest changing your future plans to another domain. If they don't have a trademark (or are unable/unwilling to produce it) you might want to look for something else - either to reduce future possible issues or just out of decency.

    2) What you offered to sell the domain for ($5000) - I'm sorry... are you kidding us? A domain that you registered 6 weeks ago and you're looking for 5k? Personally, if I were you, and you wanted to 'extort' them a little to get yourself a decent name, I would have hit auctions.godaddy.com and found a good $400-$500 domain listed and have them buy it for you in return for the one you registered. Asking $5,000 for a domain you just registered IMO is nuts. BTW - if they produce a trademark, they can take you to court and TAKE that domain name - so sell it for cheaper than it would cost for them to take you to court - just a suggestion.

    Other than that... again, my opinion - the domain isn't so wonderful that you should treat it like gold. There are other .dom's out there, even unregistered and quite alot in auctions.godaddy.com - find one that isn't going to cause you stress and trouble - now or in the future.

    ** Edit ** Thought that your deal was done... then noticed that Nik-0 was just guessing... and 10% - are you both just out for a few bucks here? My God... go make some of your own money instead of trying to get bucks off of other BHers...

    There's an old term for what both of you are trying to do - PROFITEERING - Yes, this is BHW - but it shouldn't be against other BHers. (Nik-0 - if you're just joking, then nm)
     
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    I don't think OP did anything wrong if there isn't any copyright. Asking for $5k on the other hand is over-the-top. If they really want it, $50-100 or maybe you can agree to get them to buy a domain of your choice for you.
     
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    OP Sell it for $100 and start over. It is not worth the hassle.
     
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    anyone wants to buy it for $100: HighPRNetworks.com?
     
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    Keep the domain. It is not a registered trademark from my quick search on the United States Patent and Trademarks database. How can you trademark a term that describes an SEO strategy? Can I trademark the term backlink campaign? High PR Link Building? I'd keep the domain, it perfectly describes your service. Theres nothing even "morally" wrong with keeping it.
     
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    That's exactly my point! If I were to do even EMD.NET would be still ok cuz anyone is free to register, if not me, someone else will eventually. The point is I was very cooperative and friendly. I am building that marketplace in good faith. They should of been happy for me to promote their networks on HomePage, but now YES I am going to promote other networks on HighPRNetworks.com, since they don't see any opportunity. It's their loss. I'll find plenty of other Network Providers who will be willing to advertise on my site and I WILL be finding customers for them!