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Doing what you love vs. Doing what makes a living?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by gb5000, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. gb5000

    gb5000 Regular Member

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    When I first discovered BHW, I was pretty much in my lowest of lows. I was pretty much living on the streets, and for a while I didn't know what I was going to do. Basically, I took a chance moving somewhere where I had NO support system (family), and had NO job.

    Thankfully, I had found this as well as other places and forums, got the information I needed to at least get back on my feet at the time, and from there have started my journey in the wonderful world of IM.

    Since IM took ALOT of time away from my MAIN passion (music), I have spent and sacrificed alot of my time away from doing what I TRULY love to continue to make a living. Because I absolutely Loth working in a job, working for myself has kept me sane. But I can't help but feel a deep, almost lingering depression whenever Im not working toward what I feel is my calling.

    As a musician, I battle with this everyday.

    In the past two months, I decided to try to put my time into another project online to expand my market share (and bank balance), but as I've gone through the testing phase of this next campaign, I'm starting to realize that I'm putting more time into something I had no intentions on making a career in the first place. Because the truth of the matter seems to me that, in most cases, if you want to succeed at something, you need to put both time and effort (and SOME money at first) in order to become widely successful at it, at least somewhat.

    So I've come to a cross roads here. I'm still VERY passionate about music (been doing it ALL my life), and I've even moved to another state all together to pursue it. But I've notice myself getting cault up in making more and more money so I can "get ahead".

    My question to you guys is this: Has anyone of you who started doing IM for one reason or another found yourself giving up what you love in order to do what you have to to survive?

    If so, how did you manage to get back to doing what you love, and did you finally get a chance to make a living from it?
     
  2. Virus1

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    Most people have that same problem...

    doing what one like... vs doing what pays the bills consistently ...

    and no disrespect to anyone ....
    but most people are NOT as good
    as they think when they do what they love....
    if you are a musician... and 10 years have gone by
    and no one has discovered you.... maybe you need to reassess you
    idea of making a living from what you love.....

    Most people have normal 9-5 jobs... and do what they love as a hobby...

    just my opinion....
     
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  3. InfinityAI

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    I believe life is all about balance; you must take things in moderation. Chances are, if you quit IM and do music 24/7, you'll come to regret the decision.

    I'm sure there are ways to incorporate your love of music into IM. Have you thought about offline promotion? Maybe you can specialize in promoting bands!
     
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  4. gb5000

    gb5000 Regular Member

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    Ahh, naw man, don't get it twisted, I'm VERY good at what I do (song writing that is, I'm not trying to be the next justin bieber fyi)

    In my profession, its not as simple as being "discovered" anymore, that era is gone bro. Its more or less a "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" philosiphy most record company's are using now, or "take what is already successful and make it more successful" , etc. etc.

    And as a behind the scenes guy, its not like that. You need to get what is called a "placement" or even better, and placement that becomes a top ten on hot 100 Billboard or Itunes. And that is a maze of collaborations and whelling and dealing that need to be done first before that happens.

    Its not like in the movies guys, its more complicated than that.

    Trust me, even if your good, in this industry you can still get FUCKED!! I've seen so many talented individuals who you have never heard of (go to youtube and look up all the singers, dancers, guitar players, etc. etc. You'll find alot of crappy ones, but alot are really good. Some even have record deals. And most, you never hear from again.)

    But anyway, thanks for your answer.

    IMO, I will never just do it as a hobby, I'm more of a balls to the wall kind of guy. Hence my tug of war with myself.
     
  5. gb5000

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    No doubt I have thought of that, but I'm not much of a manager to honest. I'm to narcissistic for that shit!!!

    BTW, I want to know more of you guys experience with this. Are you guys truly committed to IM because you love it? Would you do it if you were not making any money with it (but eventually you know that you will)?

    Does it feed your soul, or just your wallet?
     
  6. GORILLA

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    I usually love what makes me money, so I guess this wouldn't apply to me. :p

    All kidding aside, if your passion is music, then you need to make time for it. Most people started IM for the same reasons as me, which is to not trade their life away for measly pay at a boring day job. Why? Because most people want more from their lives than that. It always amazes me to see people posting that their not going out on New Years Eve, Christmas or some other holiday because they're making theirself sit in front of the computer and work. Fvck that. That's one of the main reasons I started in IM in the first place--to be able to enjoy my life.

    You should consider setting aside a couple of hours each day and even 1 full day to concentrate on music. If you don't have time for it, then start making time for it. Outsource, work smarter, get bots made, etc. In fact, I could almost guarantee that if you're doing what you really love throughout the week, you'll start making more $/hour in IM because you'll be much more productive when you are working.
     
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  7. KraftyKyle

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    To answer the title...

    Do what you love to make a living.
     
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  8. VelvetVampire

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    Nice thread. When I first started with IM, it was pretty boring tbh cause i had lots to learn/read so it was kinda like going back to school. After a few months of trying different things (and failing in most of them) i found something that worked and earned me some money for the first time. Thats when i started to like the whole "IM thing" a lot more.

    Now i try to automate as much as possible by investing in good softwares. The idea was that it would give me more free time for myself but i think im addicted to IM or something cause now i look for other methods to earn more. So yea, my plan failed i guess but im still a happy camper cause i feel independant and im working on expanding my business.

    On the other hand, IM can get a bit lonely sometimes cause you spend all this time behind your screens and dont interact with people that much anymore IRL. I hope someday ill sit somewhere at the riverside with my fishing rods and my iphone/laptop to see how much ive earned while im chilling hehe.

    As for your case, I agree with GORILLA, try to automate as much as possible and spend the rest of your time on doing what you like doing.

    All the best,

    VV
     
  9. Eklundh

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    I just read The 4-Hour Workweek by Tim Ferriss and I think that with all the IM experience that you say you already have and all, you might find it useful. There are some 'success stories' of musicians as well, so you should check it out.
     
  10. gb5000

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    Hey guys,

    Thanks for all the replys!!

    Eklundh, I have picked up that book and skimmed through it, and I believe I get the jest of his message. I'll review it again on your suggestion. Thanks for the reminder.

    Absolutely agree with this. Thats why I usually get out and about to coffee shops where you can meet and talk to other people while you are working! It keeps you from going insane boring yourself to DEATH sitting and being coop up in a house all day staring at your computer.

    Also, I just recently made a decision to take the risk again and go for my dreams in full force. This time, I'm not a starving musician, as I'm actually eating pretty good now. BUT....I got cault up in the system of (need more money) and ended up spending more time at this IM thing then I anticipated.

    Now, I plan on using the skills I picked up from IM on my true dream. Its a risk, and I may have to take a step back in lifestyle again, but this time I believe I'm alot better positioned to do it then I used to be. Plus, I'm still young, so why not??

    I feel more alive today then I've felt in awhile because I decided to follow my dreams again. Sure, having the money to live an ok lifestyle with IM was good, and it kept me satisfied, but NOT happy!!

    I want to make money doing things that make me happy, FULLY, not just satisfied. SO I'm gonna go for it.

    On to the next...

    Thanks for the replys!!