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Doing IM on a vintage computer - Possible ?

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  1. Capo Dei Capi

    Capo Dei Capi Power Member

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    Has anyone ever tried doing IM or anything related to IM by using a vintage computer example: Commodore 64 or TRS-80? I've been thinking for a few weeks of getting one and trying to see how much can be accomplished using such an old computer if I actually had to use it, learn to minimize bandwidth when working and getting more used to a command line over GUI. I somewhat feel like I'm missing out on alot due to GUI being out a generation before me.
    I was thinking of telneting to a vps I have where I can send commands to start programs,and command line edit stuff, but I haven't found anything about being able to telnet to a windows 2008 server from a Commodore 64 or other vintage computer.
     
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    Not sure if serious, or...
    In any case - I try to make life easier for myself, rather than harder :p
    However, antique machines may be a golden method... Let see how you go :)
     
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    Why would you use a computer that is going to make you less money as a result?

    I think you've completely missed the point of IM.
     
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    This is ludicrous.
     
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    If you have a better more efficient computer ,you should use it for anything ..Let the vintage computer remain vintage
     
  6. Capo Dei Capi

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    I'm not looking to do it as a permanent thing, just an experiment, about 1/2 the stuff I do can be run totally off terminal/CLI instead of GUI and the terminal is faster. The remote server is doing all the work, I will just be sending commands to it.
     
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    When reading the thread title, I thought you were referring to some Pentium 3 or Celeron computer but a 8-bit Commodore 64?

    I'm here stumbling things for the past couple of months after realizing 64-bit 64GB DUAL-XEON processor won't suffice to finish my upcoming project so I'm thinking to run it through clustered cloud computers.

    One of my media server is still running great on Pentium 4 processor but that's just for storage though.

    If you'd like to try out CLI(Command Line Interface), you can pick a ubuntu micro instance with 1GB Ram and 30GB Storage on AWS for just $1 for a year.
     
  8. Capo Dei Capi

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    I'm still going to be using the same pc for the actual processing of files and work, but controlling it from a vintage computer as an experiment on bandwidth usage, and minimalism.

    I probably should have gone with the headline of "Controlling IM projects though a vintage computer ? "
     
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    Sounds like a plan. I'm a CLI guy myself but I guess telnet wont suffice for our day-to-day tasks but your case might be different. Please share journey with us. Good luck!

    Who knows, We may have another future Bill Gates or Steve Jobs in the hood. :D
     
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    but how many cores are we looking at there? lol
     
  11. Capo Dei Capi

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    I think that modern computers have gotten away from the basics of really maxing out all their power. Even 6 years after the C64 came out it was still a great machine for a small studio to use for music production.

     
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    If you are just TELNETTing in to give commands I hardly think that qualifies as doing IM with that computer.

    You do realize the specs of a C64 right?

    64 KB of memory in 8 bit code?

    No IM tools exist to run on that. Hell I doubt there is a browser that runs on that unless you can rustle up a copy of early mosaic.
     
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    Man..that's quite a question lol.

    These days browsers require good amount of RAM, e.g. 512MB at least for Firefox to run properly. Else it will freeze up on a regular basis.

    I use a custom built computer. Specs are Pentium-4 3.06 GHz, 1GB RAM, 160GB HDD powered by Windows XP. Even after making a fortune with IM am not upgrading neither getting a new one. Simply because I don't need that.

    Doing IM via a VPS is a pain unless you have a super fast internet connection. Though, VPS for running SEO tools is a good decision.
     
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    If you are still using XP, you seriously need to upgrade.
     
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    I found that using a VPS can be much easier when the colors are set at 256, espically if there is a high ms between the two computers.
     
  16. Capo Dei Capi

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    They can go up to 2MB of memory but the most stable replacement is 512KB,and there is 16MB ram and 20MHZ cpu with the SuperCPU and SuperRAM add-on.

    Couldn't one send email to a wordpress site over telnet on a C64 and make posts that way?
     
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    No, unless you have a mail protocol that runs on telnet.
     
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    Yea i heard ever since Microsoft stopped supporting XP, a lot of viruses targeting XP are pouring in.
     
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    I am a bit of a vintage computer nut, Commodore 64 being my main vintage machine that I still hack on to this day. That said, you gotta be crazy thinking about doing IM on it. If it was possible, I'd probably be into it myself. But let's just speak from a purely technical standpoint as to why it's an uphill battle: Yes you can do rs232->ttl to telnet on it, but it still would't offer the terminal emulation neccessary to do what putty or some other secure shell access software would provide. You *might* be able to do secure shell and proper terminal emulation with an amiga, but I haven't even thought about it or looked into it before.