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Doing 2-3K on each 3 store but Paypal is pain in the a$$

Discussion in 'Dropshipping & Wholesale Hookups' started by clark123, Oct 9, 2019 at 3:58 PM.

  1. clark123

    clark123 Junior Member

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    Hi Guys,

    I have 3 stores that are doing USD2-3K daily each in revenue with 10-15% profit margin and I never imagined that my limiting factor on scaling would be freaking Paypal. I can pretty much scale those products to the moon but every time I try to scale Paypal will ask for delivery documents and limit my accounts. My shipping time is actually not bad to say 10-15 days.
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    but Paypal is kinda being pain in the ass e.g. they ask for proof of delivery for transaction that just took place 10-15hours ago :suspicious: which obviously it can only provide after 10-15 days later and says until I provide proof of delivery they will hold my fund but I can still receive money and when I provide the first batch of delivery proof they will ask for fresh batch and never-ending cycle continues until I run out of fund to fund my supplier and ads and all my funds locked up in Paypal then finally they will close my account and hold my fund for 180 days....its my second time...

    wondering if anyone has workaround this process, I am open for both black hat and white hat method. I am definitely not scamming people, I always ship my product within 24hrs already and my refund rate is quite low but I don't know why Paypal is so hard to deal with as a B2B.

    Any suggestion is dearly welcome. Thanks.
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  2. Veyy

    Veyy Newbie

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    Sad to hear this, and this is the reason why I am worried to start with dropshipping. Have you looked into other payment processors like 2checkout?
     
  3. clark123

    clark123 Junior Member

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    I have stripe they are treating me good but Paypal is a must for good conversion rate I am averaging around 5-9% conversion rate.
     
  4. Veyy

    Veyy Newbie

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    That's good to hear, will follow this because I want to start dropshipping soon. Damn PayPal.
     
  5. M4DM4X

    M4DM4X Power Member

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    They have done this to me as well and also asked receipts for stuff I buy before selling them .They finally figured out I was doing dropshipping and banned my account ,they don't allow dropshipping.
     
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    Veyy has given an extremely good opinion.
    Try switching to 2checkout. I have heard they charge 2% as a transaction fee. Paypal is seriously pain in the ass when it comes to fees.
     
  8. Mane.D

    Mane.D Regular Member

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    Paypall does not allow dropshiping?
     
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    lots on youtube about sellers being banned from PP for drop shipping
     
  10. Navyoscar45

    Navyoscar45 Regular Member

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    If PayPal is a pain in the ass , look for an alternative, paypal is not the only payment processor in this earth

    Why kill yourself with a company that can make you loose all your money and keep the money to themselves .. be wise to me I can almost say PayPal is a legit scam
     
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  11. mastertanvir

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    how many percent of your customers using paypal?

    I am from a country where paypal is not supported.
    But I need it to run my dropshipping business.
    For that reason, I created a paypal account using one of my relatives documents who lives in Italy. verified it via bank. I used nordvpn italian proxy to login. because I use mobile 3g internet which changes ip everytimes. It causes problem too. but my paypal was getting limited repeatedly. Everytime I submitted his documents and unlocked my id. but though I uploaded original documents of resident proof, on 4th time my paypal is permanently limited.

    Now I want a solution from experts for this issue.

    What I am planning that, I will buy a virgin proxy from www.iplease.io (I found it cheap)
    then I will install VMware free on my windows pc. then I will always use that to login to my paypal.


    Please suggest me if my plan is alright to save my paypal or give me any other suggestions so that atleast I can run paypal without any limitation.

    (This can be your suggestion but not sure about that should work. Looking for expert's reply)
     
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  12. George Anderson

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    It's high time we all begin to convince customers to use among the alternatives:

    Credit/debit card
    Transferwise
    Payoneer
    Bitcoin

    PayPal is optional for me. I use it as the last resort, for stubborn customers who won't agree on alternatives. And then spend the few bucks [say between $150 to $300] which I might have earned, to buy stuff online rather than withdrawing it or trigger any suspicion and their security system that sucks. That's just me.

    But I must say, I have reconciled most of my customers with other payment methods. :D
    Even here in BHW, I don't use PayPal as the primary.
     
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    ever heard of stripe ? with the money your making you should easily set everything up to have credit card payouts
     
  14. Fenix19

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    Fuck paypal, take just cc payments you will not lose much :)
     
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    This is so true.
     
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    If I were you I won't risk my money on proxies and paypal ..
     
  17. M4DM4X

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    If you want to stick with paypal use stealth accounts, as soon as one is banned use another one and so on. Not very practical but if you love paypal that's the price to pay to be in a relationship with them
     
  18. clark123

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    good idea, i am thinking to open an account from the UK as well because one of my friend got UK account and he pretty much can scale to any numbers and still safe lol

    pretty much my store of 1st store's paypal which been aged for 6-7 years old and now closed lol

    shopify payments = stripe

    yeah will signup with them since customers still can use 2checkout for Paypal

    yeah pretty much they don't because they considered high-risk business model

    yeah, some scammers banked so hard and didn't send goods and now we are all suffering

    Totally agree with you man biggest scammer company in the internet history. Where they hold funds from accounts and earn interest on those hold. Imagine, only 1% of the accounts of PP funds are on hold for 180days and only 0.5-1% interest earned on those hold, they already earns billions on those interest income already.


    I got an account manager with Payoneer they are sweet and saves % from PP as well

    I thought the same but when i saw my conversion rate for different funnel dam they are money maker for me
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    Trust me no one in the world that hate PayPal so much than me and their staff are so rude as well but the thing is every time I ditch PP man my conversion rate goes to hell 1-2% from 5-9%
     
  19. Fenix19

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    If there is no paypal they will pay with credit card :)
     
  20. mastertanvir

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    b2bpay can be a solution