Does youtube do shadowbanning / limiting on youtube channels they think have fake engagement?

Knkkskknk · Aug 28, 2022

If they do, how can I tell? I want to buy an already monetized youtube channel or buy watchtime + subscribers for my own and get it monetized. I don't want to upload lots of videos and wait forever to be monetized, what if some videos go viral? I lose out on work and funds, and monetized review takes 1-4 weeks too...

But I am also worried maybe these channels are flagged by youtube as "suspicious activity, bot account" so they suppress the uploads/SEO of the channel. Is this a thing? If it is how can I tell if the channel is shadowbanned or not?

WaterProxy · Aug 28, 2022

YouTube does definitely flag and set thresholds for channels. There is favoritism involved.
Will you get flagged for botting your channel? No, because anyone can just send bots to anyone's channels.

Youtube-Toys · Aug 29, 2022

Actually its not that simple to explain but there is not something like channel shadow ban for real. it all depends on the history of the views you get in majority of your videos. For example you wanna test some smm panel you did that and your all videos got effected negatively after you tested it on one video then you can simply remove that video and in next 5 days you will be normal as before.
Youtube takes 5 days of time to analyse things in their backend properly.

Edit:
The main reason behind the channel's performance is the non active subs that limits your impression count at-most. so if you can get something to work out and even getting like 20 subs a day which are organic after you purchased that channel can potentially balance it out and no negative effect will be seen.

Curiosity:-
Why are you even buying the channel if you do not have any audience or content which can generate a bit organic traffic ? . Many people think that buying a monetised channel will resolve all their problems but its not that. In My Opinion you should never buy subs because thats the main aspect in youtube's eye. Buying views likes etc are fine but big no no to subs that wont be active. if you really want to buy then buy from someone so that those subs can atleast watch your video twice a month.

kalpana007 · Aug 29, 2022

They will always punish channels buying views so avoid this. Make good content and let it grow on own.

Stayer · Sep 4, 2022

Knkkskknk said:
If they do, how can I tell? I want to buy an already monetized youtube channel or buy watchtime + subscribers for my own and get it monetized. I don't want to upload lots of videos and wait forever to be monetized, what if some videos go viral? I lose out on work and funds, and monetized review takes 1-4 weeks too...

But I am also worried maybe these channels are flagged by youtube as "suspicious activity, bot account" so they suppress the uploads/SEO of the channel. Is this a thing? If it is how can I tell if the channel is shadowbanned or not?

There's a myriad of options for YouTube to recognize fake engagement: those start from abnormalities in statistical data to the analysis of where the views are coming from. Usually places that sell views sell them from the same regions so YouTube already knows the views coming from those places will be fake.

mcm2022 · Sep 6, 2022

What if you don't monetize.

Is there any difference?

Knkkskknk · Sep 8, 2022

Youtube-Toys said:
Why are you even buying the channel if you do not have any audience or content which can generate a bit organic traffic ? . Many people think that buying a monetised channel will resolve all their problems but its not that. In My Opinion you should never buy subs because thats the main aspect in youtube's eye. Buying views likes etc are fine but big no no to subs that wont be active. if you really want to buy then buy from someone so that those subs can atleast watch your video twice a month.

I have a motivation problem. I have a lot of good ideas and know how to use many programs, but not being monetized makes me unmotivated to even try. I could get a 1mil viewed video, then another 1mil viewed video, that I work months to create, just to only gain 900 subs, and still not be at the threshold to "apply for monetization". Even If I do hit the threshold for monetization, and my content is genuine it could take youtube a month to activate monetization for me, or they could flat out deny me...

I just feel like it would be better to have the monetization first before putting in the effort, that way those 1mil videos would generate you 1 to 3k usd each and you'd be motivated to continue...

FWIW my video involve original music, original filming, after effects use and animation. I literally have a video ready to go but it's taken me months to create and I don't want to post it for no reward... Pretty sure it'll get lots of views once put into public also...

that's why I'm asking about the youtube shadowbanning accounts that have been botted or not...

mcm2022 · Sep 9, 2022

Youtube-Toys said:
Actually its not that simple to explain but there is not something like channel shadow ban for real. it all depends on the history of the views you get in majority of your videos. For example you wanna test some smm panel you did that and your all videos got effected negatively after you tested it on one video then you can simply remove that video and in next 5 days you will be normal as before.
Youtube takes 5 days of time to analyse things in their backend properly.

Edit:
The main reason behind the channel's performance is the non active subs that limits your impression count at-most. so if you can get something to work out and even getting like 20 subs a day which are organic after you purchased that channel can potentially balance it out and no negative effect will be seen.

Curiosity:-
Why are you even buying the channel if you do not have any audience or content which can generate a bit organic traffic ? . Many people think that buying a monetised channel will resolve all their problems but its not that. In My Opinion you should never buy subs because thats the main aspect in youtube's eye. Buying views likes etc are fine but big no no to subs that wont be active. if you really want to buy then buy from someone so that those subs can atleast watch your video twice a month.

Yoola will simply use their private bot farms to manufacture both views AND subscriptions and likes. It's obvious you when you see the low quality content, mediocre videos:

https://www.tubefilter.com/2021/11/17/like-nastya-crosses-250-million-youtube-subscribers/
36,000,000 views...LOL, manufactured and fake.

Meanwhile, other very attractive and successful kids channels are tiny in comparison.

While Yoola has gone this route, Moonbug is buying up real, organic channels that are actually appealing while Yoola is just pure manipulation.

Question: how could one follow the Yoola route of being manufactured if you don't care about monetization? Just buy from any company or, like Yoola, have a private bot farm?

Appreciate your helpful replies.

mcm2022 · Sep 9, 2022

kalpana007 said:
They will always punish channels buying views so avoid this. Make good content and let it grow on own.

What if someone buys views for a channel you don't own? Then what happens to that channel? And what is the difference between monetized and non-monetized?

Nowear · Sep 10, 2022

Knkkskknk said:
I have a lot of good ideas and know how to use many programs, but not being monetized makes me unmotivated to even try. I could get a 1mil viewed video, then another 1mil viewed video, that I work months to create, just to only gain 900 subs, and still not be at the threshold to "apply for monetization

Knkkskknk said:
FWIW my video involve original music, original filming, after effects use and animation. I literally have a video ready to go but it's taken me months to create and I don't want to post it for no reward... Pretty sure it'll get lots of views once put into public also...

I'm not sure you're focussing on the right problem. I really believe that self-confidence is no longer in order with YT. You may have the best video in the world and not go viral at all. Your main effort and main questioning here should be about making a very good video or an exceptional video succeed on YT, i.e in the midst of all the competition (fair, and mainly unfair) from way less good videos or even bad ones. Don't forget your video has to be suggested to go viral and this is not so easy any more, if only it's ever been. The saying "Make quality work and you'll see results" is growing irrelevant by the day. This is particularly true in real creative fields (short films, music, comedy, you name it) where the video may be attached to no active keyword to speak of because it is a self-reliant work of "art" (quotation marks needed or not) and doesn't feature any known people. That said, if you are legitimately sure about the way to make an extremely good video go viral, then go (what will 1k lost views be in the end if you get 1 million?) and why not share and discuss your tips here, because some people here may be interested.

Knkkskknk · Sep 10, 2022

Nowear said:
I'm not sure you're focussing on the right problem. I really believe that self-confidence is no longer in order with YT. You may have the best video in the world and not go viral at all. Your main effort and main questioning here should be about making a very good video or an exceptional video succeed on YT, i.e in the midst of all the competition (fair, and mainly unfair) from way less good videos or even bad ones. Don't forget your video has to be suggested to go viral and this is not so easy any more, if only it's ever been. The saying "Make quality work and you'll see results" is growing irrelevant by the day. This is particularly true in real creative fields (short films, music, comedy, you name it) where the video may be attached to no active keyword to speak of because it is a self-reliant work of "art" (quotation marks needed or not) and doesn't feature any known people. That said, if you are legitimately sure about the way to make an extremely good video go viral, then go (what will 1k lost views be in the end if you get 1 million?) and why not share and discuss your tips here, because some people here may be interested.

I'm not 100% sure TBH. My field is purely creative and over the years I feel like I know what type of creative video would get lots of views. Like shotting a MV IRL to an original song, or having an animation created to original songs. And I'm targeting specific niche of audience. It's not the normal youtube channel TBH, I mostly should be trying to monetize on spotify, but I notice some MV's get millions upon millions of views, every 100mil+ views, and I can't help but think of the funds that would generate if there was one ad and it was my video... That's why I need monetization first TBH. Right now I'm making shorts in my niche to gain subs and watch hours of things my audience would like.

mcm2022 · Sep 11, 2022

The real problem is the fakers...such as Yoola and "Like Nastya"...are ruining things for true creative talent.

Yoola is manipulating the system.

mcm2022 · Oct 2, 2022

mcm2022 said:
The real problem is the fakers...such as Yoola and "Like Nastya"...are ruining things for true creative talent.

Yoola is manipulating the system.

Still wondering how Yoola does this. Some people suggest they are in a close relationship with the platform. Thoughts?

Trust WorkShop · Oct 2, 2022

Many members have already addressed OP's concern. But, I would like to add 1 thing : YouTube claims that they do not shadowban, however in reality we all know that they do shadowban.

Does youtube do shadowbanning / limiting on youtube channels they think have fake engagement?

Knkkskknk

Newbie

WaterProxy

Jr. VIP

Youtube-Toys

Jr. VIP

kalpana007

Jr. VIP

Stayer

Jr. VIP

mcm2022

Newbie

Knkkskknk

Newbie

mcm2022

Newbie

mcm2022

Newbie

Nowear

Registered Member

Knkkskknk

Newbie

mcm2022

Newbie

mcm2022

Newbie

Trust WorkShop

Jr. VIP

Main Menu

Marketplace

Making Money

BlackHatWorld

Other