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Does keyword percentage count the Title?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Erin Heiner, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. Erin Heiner

    Erin Heiner Newbie

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    I have noticed that when using the Yoast Seo Plugin for wordpress, it never seems to count the title in the percentage.

    Is this a screw up or does keyword in Blog Titles NOT count as keyword percentage in the blog?
     
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    No one knows the mind of Google including Yoast, but I would wager Google does count matches in page titles.
     
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  3. Erin Heiner

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    Thanks for the response. Someone please shed some light on this. For articles around 300 words, that .3% per keyword... So thats a big deal, one extra keyword is over optimization!
     
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    I wouldn't worry about over optimization. For example the search "games" has over a 1500 matches in the first result and they've been doing that for years. There are literally thousands of page one examples like this. In some niches I've seen it go higher than 2500 matches per page... the over optimization theory never explains the field measurements... the theory collapses because "well but if you use 2750 matches per page then that would be over-optimised!"... really? come on... maybe the field data suggests there is no over optimization penalty and some other force is it work...

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    I say go measure and decide for yourself. :)
     
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    There is no ideal or exact percentage for better ranking. I usually place the page’s focus keyword in the title tag once, in the page content 2-5 times (depending on the subject), and 1 time in the Meta description. If you have good, solid content this is usually enough.

    Matt Cutts has said that good content will trump SEO every time, so the smart thing to do would be to focus on your copy and on creating good content instead of keyword density percentages.
     
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    There's a very informative post from Leith, where anchor ratio was discussed.
    I know that it's quite different from what you're asking but go read it and understand the principle, it may help with your question.
     
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    I always try to use the keyword naturally, sensibly and meaningfully in the article title, without bother about using it as an exact match, as it should flow with the title.
     
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    I personally don't bother with Meta descriptions. I use the Yoast simply as a guide as most of what they say is worthless - readability for instance. I've read many articles that one of my contributors has published and it reads really well, yet Yoast has it down as poor.
     
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    lol.
     
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    Since optimizing title for a certain keyword helps you rank for it, it's normal(at least IMO) to think that it counts toward keyword density.

    Yoast plugin counts only the in the content area, so for instance, if you have a widget which shows that particular keyword, it will count toward keyword density, even though yoast doesn't show it.

    That's what I thought as well when I was reading Moz's SEO beginner guide. However, keyword density is, an important on page seo factor(contrary to what that pdf says). Also meta description may carry seo value as well(haven't tested so I can't guarantee).

    Well, that's how keyword density is optimized so that if you write naturally you'll be in the good range.
     
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    You need to do some research varying the density for your keywords. I can confirm that keyword density is important for google ranking at least for my niche. Now you will a lot of pages with keyword density 0 but still ranking high in serp. Most people who do not want to consider density as ranking factor use this argument to dispel it. This is partially true but not always. You can read the guide by phpbuilt to get a sens of keyword density.
     
  13. Erin Heiner

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    Exactly. I dont know why this is such a hard question. Im going to go with yes. And based on the rest of what you said. That means if that same post shows up in your side bar, then your really over optimized.