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Does Google Remember Whois Info?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Chicilikit, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Chicilikit

    Chicilikit Senior Member

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    If I buy private registration for domains I have had for years without private registration, move those domains to SEO hosting or different hosts, so the domains will have different ips and after some time (days, weeks?) I interlink them, do you think that google will find that unnatural? Do you think there is any time period after google "forgets" that I was once owner of both those domains? Is it even worth the effort and money to buy private whois info for domains which has been registered without private whois info for years?
     
  2. innozemec

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    Google is registrar and i strongly believe it sees through private registrations and knows the real whois, so purchasing private whois just because of Google is something i don't find wise for myself
     
  3. Chicilikit

    Chicilikit Senior Member

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    If google can see through whois, why everyone suggest private registration when building PBNs? And how can I hide from google that I'm owner of both linked sites?
     
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    How about if we fake whois info?
     
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    The patent they have involving historical whois info from years ago basically outlines a method of using it in combination with other things to nuke blatantly abusive sites. Like when they implemented it, I had millions of pages deindexed at once and lost like $10k/month income because I was relying exclusively on PR from dropped domains.

    The whole point of it is to keep people from buying domains and using their authority to rank, but people are still doing that very successfully almost 10 years later. If you change your whois and move to another server they will notice it, but if the site keeps functioning the same way you're not going to raise any flags.

    My best guess is the worst thing that would happen is the links would be devalued like they would on the same IP, but that's a real stretch.
     
  6. Chicilikit

    Chicilikit Senior Member

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    Well, I'm doing this with my own sites, so they will not change in any way, but if google knows I'm still the same guy, that its probably killed for me.
    But what you wrote makes my another method probably useless. I buy high PA/DA domains and then build blogs on them and link to my money sites, but they are completely different from the original sites. So you say that this way I will not get any authority from these sites to my money pages? If I wanted to keep the sites the same, I would need to have also the content that was on these site,s but obviously I do not have any copywright to use it, how would you solve this problem?
     
  7. Chicilikit

    Chicilikit Senior Member

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    Also been looking if google can see through whois, because it is registrar, but it cannot. Only the registrar which operates the domain can see through whois, other registrar cannot and there is also some kind of law about it.
     
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    It's hard to say where the line is, but it seems like it's a lot worse when a domain actually drops and you catch it. From what I've read, most people aren't actually copying the original sites, they're just trying really hard to not set off any spam alarms. There's also apparently just a certain amount of uncertainty there. The people making money at it are basically doing what you're doing, but they just don't expect 100% of the domains to work out. The basic strategy is to build a legit looking site with content that's as relevant as possible to the old content, then solely use it to link out to other sites for the domain authority.
     
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  9. Chicilikit

    Chicilikit Senior Member

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    Big thanks for the info, I will adjust my strategies.
     
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    I never rely on whois privacy protection to save my ass from Google or any other entity for that matter. Come on we are
    blackhatters. Screw whois privacy protection. Sign up as someone else.

    -RK
     
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    With everything you hear on TV about the NSA and meta
    data being recorded don't you think Google probably has
    that information somewhere? Yeah I would say they do!