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Does google have a sandbox? Can you build backlinks too fast? I HAVE THE ANSWERS!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by links, Jul 28, 2009.

  1. links

    links Regular Member

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    Ok there is so much debate online as to whether there is a google sandbox, and if you can build backlinks too fast and get banned. The answers is yes and no.

    If a site is brand new, getting lots of spammy links, such as using xrummer or autopligg etc, your site simply will not get indexed anywhere. Or if it is only just indexed it might get removed.

    However, if a site is a good 6 months old, and has a few hundred backlinks already YOU CANNOT GET BANNED. The only way to get banned is if you do some on page blackhat stuff (stuff your competitors cant do to your site because its your sites content). You cannot be banned whatever your backlinks are from because otherwise all your competitors would get you banned! Google is not stupid they know if they ban people for spam, spammy backlinks etc people could wipe out competitors. Why do you think nobody offers a 'get your competitors banned' service? they could make so much money from it if they could!

    Oh... and as for the sandbox, there is no such thing! If you suddenly drop down the serps again you are not sandboxed or penalised, google is just messing about with it algorithms.

    Let this be the end of the debate forever :)
     
  2. LaveymorT

    LaveymorT Registered Member

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    I dont want to sound like an asshole, but what makes you think that your post state the correct facts?

    I am asking in the hopes to learn more :)
     
  3. links

    links Regular Member

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    Cause ive used just about all the spam tools and experimented with my well established sites and new tester sites. Also im ranked top for a few keywords that give me big conversions :)
     
  4. supersi

    supersi Registered Member

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    About a year ago I had a site just sitting around that I hadn't touched for a few months. It was already like 18 months old, had about 400 inbound links, and was making about $3/month from Adsense.

    Since I found myself with a bit of time one afternoon I thought I would try out a Directory Submission service to gain additional backlinks and hopefully boost the pagerank to this site.

    About 45 days later the site was de-indexed, from Google and it still is to this day (it's still indexed in Bing and Yahoo!). I did absolutely nothing to the on-page stuff (there was absolutely no black hat stuff anywhere on this site). The only thing I did was use the submission service.

    Just thought I would share my experience...
     
  5. suyvv

    suyvv BANNED BANNED

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    links,so how many links would you suggest to build everyday for a new site?
     
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    Micallef Supreme Member

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  7. links

    links Regular Member

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    i don't understand it all, but from what i understood, i believe you are doing this on a new domain?

    Read my original psot again, you will see that i said IF the domain is new, then you can get banned but so long as it has a reasonable age (about 4-6 months) you cannot be banned as people would wipe out competitors this way, but google knows if your site is new there would be no point anybody backlink spamming you to death because you have no good rankings anyway.

    however should it be an aged site, then google gets suspicious it could be other people trying to ban you :)
     
  8. suyvv

    suyvv BANNED BANNED

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    Thanks Micallef, I'll go check it out.
     
  9. foreclosureking

    foreclosureking Regular Member

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    I concur with you. I have done test also and we have experienced the same results and we do run an xrumer service here as well.

    Great post! :)
     
  10. sqhunter

    sqhunter Regular Member

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    ..sounds like a good idea, let me pull out some sites on this.. only western union accepted of course.. hehe
     
  11. schmedes2

    schmedes2 Newbie

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    so google messes around with its algorithms for several weeks/months?