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Does 302 redirection pass penalties?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bdmmedia, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. bdmmedia

    bdmmedia Junior Member

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    Ok, so I've got a new client whose site was hit pretty hard by penguin/EMD. We've got him a new domain, and plan to copy his site to the new domain. I planned to simply create a static page on the old domain with a nofollow link that says "We moved, click here to go to our new site" or something like that. But the client really wants the site to automatically redirect customers, so they don't even have to click. Questions:

    1. I know a 301 redirect will pass a domain's penalty to another site. Has anybody done this with a 302? 302s aren't supposed to pass link juice - I'm thinking that means for good or bad. Worst case scenario, maybe I put up a static page, as mentioned above, and include a 302 for a month or so. Once he forgets about it, I remove the 302, just in case there's any chance of it having an affect.

    2. Am I crazy to copy over the exact content, especially when the old site is being redirected to the new one? Am I just asking for trouble? If so, how much rewriting are we talking about - a moderate amount, or completely redoing the content?
     
  2. FLK101

    FLK101 Newbie

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    You could just make a javascript that runs when they land on the old site then redirects them to the new site after a second. That keeps all the penalties with the old site, but automatically puts them on the new site.
     
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  3. bdmmedia

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  4. bdmmedia

    bdmmedia Junior Member

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    2 javascript redirects:
    Instant redirect:
    Code:
    <script type="text/javascript"> 
    <!-- 
    window.location = "http://www.google.com/" 
    //--> 
    </script>
    Delayed redirect with message:
    Code:
    <html>
    <head>
    <script type="text/javascript">
    <!--
    function delayer(){
        window.location = "http://google.com"
    }
    //-->
    </script>
    </head>
    <body onLoad="setTimeout('delayer()', 5000)">
    <h2>Prepare to be redirected!</h2>
    <p>This page is a time delay redirect, please update your bookmarks to our new 
    location!</p>
    
    </body>
    </html>
    
     
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  5. beakon

    beakon Regular Member

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    Or just tell him the risks of 301ing the old domain.
     
  6. bdmmedia

    bdmmedia Junior Member

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    Of course, I've done that. The problem comes when he still wants to do it (he does) and I'm the one left cleaning up the mess. I can charge for that, of course, but determining where exactly the penalty for the old domain stops and the need for SEO on the new domain begins is pretty much impossible, not to mention the extra headaches caused by the whole situation, and his possible perception (however flawed) that I'm somehow to blame for his "brand new site" not ranking quickly/at all.
     
  7. Z0mbie

    Z0mbie Regular Member

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    Javascript redirects count as 301 redirects. I've personally tested that.

    You can either filter it through 4-5 301 redirects, or do a 302 redirect. I'm not aware of 302 passing link juice, so I don't think it should pass penalties either.
     
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  8. madoctopus

    madoctopus Supreme Member

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    301 = Permanent redirect
    302 = Temporary redirect

    In other words, in worst case, it should only pass penalties as long as the redirect is live. But I do not think it is the case. Based on the HTTP standard and what 302 is supposed to be used for and how it is used for by many sites I do not think it passes anything SEO wise. I did no tests though.
     
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  9. bdmmedia

    bdmmedia Junior Member

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    Thanks everybody, and especially thanks for the tidbit quoted above. I've set up a 302, and will report back if it somehow seems to be passing the penalty.
     
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    You wanted to reply back... Could you inform us if the 302 passed the penalty?