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Do You Use Plagiarism Checkers For Your Sites / PBN ? WATCH OUT!!!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by BreaknBrix, Apr 13, 2015.

  1. BreaknBrix

    BreaknBrix Power Member

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    I'm sure some people know this but there's gotta be a lot more who don't.

    I started my first PBN like 2-3 weeks ago. But prior to that, like 9+ months ago when yahoo voices went down, I scraped and saved roughly 16k articles in 4 different niches. These aren't popular niches at all so I wasn't suspecting that many people would be using the articles.

    For my PBN I started doing all the home pages manually with The Dragon. But since I have thousands of these voice articles, a lot of time has passed by, and these articles kept passing plagiarism checkers..... I started populating most of my backpages with them. I really thought I was being slick. I simply Googled "plagiarism checker". Found the 2 most popular ones and would run each article through BOTH then post them right up on my PBN.

    http://smallseotools.com/plagiarism-checker/
    http://www.plagium.com/

    Every single article I ran through both of them kept coming back mostly unique. I had a few that were 90-95% unique but the high majority were coming back 100% unique. So I thought, "cool, that makes sense since these are isolated niches".

    Yesterday I thought, "I'm gonna streamline this process, run a shitton of articles through both then and put all the passed / unique articles in a folder so they're ready to use on demand".

    But THEN....... then I got this really fishy feeling. Like, "can there really be this many articles people aren't using...". I immediately became skeptical and decided to run the articles through a 3rd checker.

    http://www.plagscan.com/seesources/analyse.php

    The articles kept coming back the same.

    The more and more it kept happening the more and more angry I was getting. Like "how is it possible that not 1 single person had used these articles"?

    So I did something very simple.

    I had 2 folders, one called "double passed xxx(niche)" another called "triple passed xxx(niche)". I pulled 10 articles at random from my triple passed folder. Then I quickly skim read through 1 article, looked for a really unique sentence, copied and pasted it into Google and WHAT THE FUCK DO I SEE?! The first triple passed article I see 2 sites pop up with the same exact phrase. Naturally I click on both sites and it's the same article word for word!

    I notice 1 site was dated 2011 the other was dated Oct 2014. The first site was the original author, the second person was probably some dumbass like myself. Someone who ran the article through one of these checkers, it came back unique so he just posted it on his site with a link.

    Then I did another article, and another, over and over and over and over and I realized many of these articles are in fact >>>NOT UNIQUE.

    So I immediately go back to my PBN and delete ALL of the yahoo voices articles immediately. I do not want duplicate fucking content all over my PBN. And I am pissed as hell right now.

    What is really weird, the first tool breaks articles down into smaller segments then marks each segment green if its unique. As the tool was working and clearing ALL these segments in the article I was copying (directly from the tool) and pasting them into Google with quotes just to find they were NOT unique. The tool is basically saying, "this part is unique, this part is unique, this part is unique" as I'm searching them on all Google and seeing they are NOT UNIQUE. Not even 1% unique.

    This tells me that these plagiarism checkers are NOT reliable.

    Only things I can think of is -

    1) Blocked by Google. If you try to paste an entire article into Google you get an "illegal request" notice. The max you can search is 32 words at a time. Which is what http://smallseotools.com/plagiarism-checker/ seems to understand. It breaks articles down into segments of 32 words or less to search a whole article. But this site is ranked #1 on Google for "plagiarism checker". And if Google won't allow you to search more than 32 words (not sure why), but this site allows you... could Google potentially be blocking the tool?

    2) Could just be shitty programming on part of the developers. MAYBE there are better tools?

    3) This is what I really don't get. But are plagiarism tools themselves.... against Googles rules?


    I don't know WHY it's an "illegal request" to search more than 32 words on Google. Google should have an advanced tool that allows you to paste and search for entire article with quotes. But you can't do that. So you have to rely on plagiarism tools. But if these tools aren't accurate.... what can you rely on?

    Do I need to pay someone to build me a custom plagiarism tool that uses proxies?

    I don't care if an article is in a book. I don't care if it's stored deep in some database. I just need a FAST WAY to check full articles on Google to see if they're in the INDEX or SUPPLEMENTAL INDEX. That's all. And I don't understand why this is so difficult to do.

    The tool I found to be accurate is: http://www.plagiarismchecker.com/

    The only reason it's accurate is because it LIMITS you to the exact amount of words that Google allows. So you can only search a few phrases or a sentence. Although it's accurate, it's practically worthless. Cause it's no different than just going straight to Google.

    I have tons of articles to go through. And I have no problem pasting each 1 into a tool manually. What I can't be doing is pasting 1 small sentence, clicking through webpages, then going through them manually while comparing to the original article. That adds on a lot more time. Yet I feel like I have no other choice.

    What do you guys use? Have any of you noticed this before? There are so many plagiarism tools on Google that are worthless and will fuck you in the ass if you trust them.


    -BB
     
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  2. dannyslimited

    dannyslimited Registered Member

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    And what have we learned? It doesn't pay to jack people's content.
     
  3. JOSourcing

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    As long as you continue to scrape content, you will always to run into this problem no matter what tool you use to find plagiarism.

    So dump the scraping strategy if you truly "do not want duplicate fucking content all over my PBN."

    There is no other way.
     
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    pay few bucks for copyscape, it's worth it.
     
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    If you want to capture the "voice" of the article, your best bet is to have someone (or yourself) rewrite it.
     
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    personally i have been using copyscape for a while now maybe you could check it out
     
  7. netmatrix

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    +1 for Copyscape.
     
  8. mon3y4me

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    Yeah I had the same problem once when I decided to take an article from expiredomains using waybackmachine. At first I ran the article using a free checker, no duplicate was found even copyscape didnt find something. So I was like cool, free content for my blog. Then after trying to copy past some sentence from the article on google manually...Boom! It was able to trace it back word by word. I was like wth?? I deleted the articles from my blog to save it from duplicate penalty. Now this is what I do to make sure the articles are free to use. 1st- I check using a free online checker, if it passes. I re-check using copyscape. If copyscape doesnt find it, I take some sentence from the article and check it manually on google. If all 3 are clear, its ready to be published on my blog
     
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    What is a free online checker? Does it check if content is PLR or in the public domain? Because that's the only type of content that can be legally repurposed like that.
     
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    I use a free duplicate content checker online like smallseo or duplichecker. If my article passes, i use a premium content checker like copyscape. That way I avoid wasting credits since copyscape isnt free
     
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    I don't put much trust in any plagiarism checker. I have pasted content that I knew was already published online just to test them and often it would pass as 'unique'. The one I found to give half decent results was smallseo. Haven't tried Duplichecker, but will check it out. But after reading this thread, I will definitely use Google a lot more to check for duplicate content just to be safe.
     
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    Aside from agreeing with the posts from members above me, one thing that does stick out to me is the fact you seem to be trying to do a million things at once. I admire your productivity and streamlined-thinking but think you may do better if you just cut back on the quantity of work you're trying to do and focus on the quality - if ya know what I mean. I know from experience that trying to do to much and not getting anywhere saps your motivation and can get real frustrating, real fast.
     
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    If you can't fork out $10 for copyscape with PP or $5 with a credit card you probably shouldn't have a PBN.
     
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    As others have said, BB, pay for copyscape. It's as good as it gets in that space.
     
  16. mikey29

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    actually i think that is a great idea. I have copyscape, but when you have a lot of articles, in your case 16000, you cannot pay 16000 x .05 for an article.

    So if an free online checker pass use copyscape.

    If fail, rewrite it and save .05.

    I know .05 is nothing but when you have 1000's it adds up for every fail

    To the above poster

    use spun copied articles for link building, manual for main sites.

    link building cost money for articles the manual way, especially mass link building, gsa. now you use the matt woodward approach
     
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    I din`t know this.now i will try to use this......tnx a lot.......
     
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    I have a bad experience with this, now i check them manually using "phrases" save alot of time and coffee
     
  19. BreaknBrix

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    1) Don't ever dare, hint or imply that I am retarded ever again. I didn't come on this forum insulting anyone. I don't talk shit to people idk cause I know how big of a faggot / loser / piece of shit I would look like if I did that. You don't seem to understand that simple fact. Which doesn't surprise me cause you basically just called every mod on this forum "retarded".

    2) If there ever is an IQ competition on this forum and money is involved, you're gonna be the first fucker I pick to compete against.

    3) I appreciate the advice everyone else was able to give without acting like a rude kunt. Everyone in this thread basically except you. I realize there are people on here who've been bullied their whole lives, who have small dicks and anger management issues but it's great to know there's very few of them.

    4) Copyscape. I've known about it for years. I don't GAF about money. What I care about is accuracy and if the free checkers are that inaccurate I can't imagine a $10 one would be much better. But I will test it since other members have vouched for it (along with duplichecker).

    5) It does pay to jack peoples shit. This isn't wafo and my bank tells me so. I have easily over $50k worth of music software / hardware just in my studio. Which doesn't even include all my marketing tools. I've paid for roughly $14k worth for the actual music software I own and stole the rest. I've made that $$$ back more than 10 fold just in that 1 niche. So if an article doesn't exist on Google I'm using it. I don't care who wrote it. If they wanna sue me I'll pay the fine. I just want better plagiarism software and I got that. Thank you BHW. :)
     
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  20. DannyZhang

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    Thanks for the post BB. Didn't know how plagarism checkers are flawed.

    But when it comes to PBNs I always used unique content, not even content which is spun or bought from BHW. Just 100% high quality content. If I'm going to spend so much money on these domains, I wouldn't save on the content either.

    I like to think that having unique content will give more power to PBNs and money sites.