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Do you use high quality manual spun articles for money site?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by iBrazilian, Apr 2, 2014.

  1. iBrazilian

    iBrazilian Regular Member

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    I've been wondering how many people actually use high quality manual spun articles for their money site and actually has no negative effects towards SERP.

    I've been wondering because considering the amount of spun articles that goes into web 2.0's and often people rank on google with those spun and unique articles. So why the big deal about "writing everything yourself or outsourcing" considering that google's algorithm towards spam is very shitty?

    Of course, that goes without saying that if you throw some garbage unreadable crap that does not make sense, that will certainly throw off alerts.

    For example, when I do web 2.0's, I use wicked article creator, spin the article,then manually hand check the articles, removing and including more synonyms; in the end I get hundreds/thousands of unique and high quality spins that reads perfectly as if a human actually wrote it. Which is why I asked my question.
     
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    spun articles for money site is not good. it effects your ranking.
     
  3. iBrazilian

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    Of course it affects your ranking, as I pointed out very often when building web2's, they start ranking with spun content(let's assume it's high quality & unique), why can't it be the same for money sites?

    Or are you just stating a point from what you have heard from everybody saying around the forum that it isn't good, because from what I've seen that is what happens way too much around here or have you actually tried using unique and high quality spun content on your money site and as an affect you can point out that it is not good for ranking?
     
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    Well, to my mind it's all about quality. If you can create high quality spun article then you may use it on your money site. To my mind it's ok, if you proof read them but your texts should be readable.
     
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    I've tested pretty strong and without a doubt unique trumps spun. I set up 2 sites, very, very similar names and added unique content to one and extremely well manually spun content to the other.

    Backlinked them the same as well. For example one might get a WordPress backlinks and the other a blogger one but very, very similar back linking. I was very careful to make this a tight experience so as to get as close to perfect answers.

    Hands down the unique ranked better for every keyword (40 keywords). All the pages got indexed and all that other good stuff for both sites but it was not even close as to rankings.

    6 month experiment, 53 articles, all posted by me with images and the entire process was replicated as closely as possible for the spun site. I even manually spun the articles to guarantee quality.

    A bit of work but worth the effort to get a real answer in my opinion.
     
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  6. ShotsFired

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    Hi :)

    Depends how much you need to write IMO, and how confident you are in your spinner/spinning skill set.

    If you're doing more than 500 words and aren't overly concerned about the content being picked up as spam - then I'd recommend spinning.

    I mostly use WordAI and buy a couple of 1000 word articles if I'm putting content on my landing page (call me lazy). Reason being: I know that there's a very, very low chance that this content is duplicate or being used elsewhere and the spinning is an added fallback in case I get fleeced by my article writer (though that has not happened yet).

    If it's around 500 words I typically get my hands dirty and do it myself.

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    Always go for unique on your money sites, not only for ranking benefits, but your user experience!!
     
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    no that's not good for money site,better you go with the unique one,because nowadays content is king for SEO
     
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    What spinning format? Was it single level or multi-level - e.g. paragraph spun, sentence spun, then words spun?

    Thing is im doing great with complex spun content and i know as a fact that it is impossible for google to detect spun articles if they're done properly. Actually is impossible even if they're unreadable but if uniqueness is not high then u have the similarity problem. There is however an n-gram intersection with spun content much more than with unique.

    In the end i don't care. I do quality spintax, i do unreadable autogenerated content i do all sorts of shit. Everything works. Some things just work better. In the end if you throw enough good links at a site it will rank with anything, especially for medium or low competition keywords.

    Also spintax is only way for me to get a 50k page site done in 10 minutes. Other people if would do it manually would have to basically invest 150 months of writer work and $75000 to get 50k articles done. Not for me, thank you. I just spend 4 hours writing a good in-depth spintax, fire up my spam CMS and add it to it and there you go, 2 minutes later i have a 50k page site. Does it rank for big stuff? No but i don't care. Works even if 100% computer generated content that is 100% unreadable IF you throw enough links at it. From a ROI perspective, if that site makes $100 in a month I consider it a success. Sometimes it makes way way more than that. With just a few hours of work. Nothing beats that!

    Soon I'm gonna release my automated CMS for free as open source. If anybody wants to beta test send me a PM so I hook u up. All I want is you actually test it and tell me what bugs u find so I can fix them.
     
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    never use spun articles on money site, unless your happy to churn and burn of course
     
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    It was multi level - sentence - word.

    We operate differently for sure as my sites are all pretty decent sized, all unique content and generate from 1600.00 a month to 3K+ a month and cost me no more than 10K per site if I outsource all the content.

    I would not bother with a site that made 100.00 a month but I think differently than others do... of course if you have 250 - 100.00 a month sites using our method that is not a bad model. I personally prefer to be 100% unique, hit some very hard Keywords in the business and finance niches and build a long term site that stands up against the big boys when it comes to organic traffic and ranking in G.



     
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  12. iBrazilian

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    Did you optimize the spun articles after such as including your keywords in the first sentence & a few more times after around where it seemed natural and include LSI words or just spinned it and bam, put it live?
     
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    In my experience, the amount of time needed to spin article manually to the level I would want to publish on money site or price of such spun article is not lower than amount of time needed to get or a price of a good, unique article from outsourced writer.
     
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    The articles were a mirror of the original content on the other site. We did not spin the KWs and we included the LSI words as well. I don't KW stuff so both sites had about 1.30 - 1.60 KW density.
     
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    If you using spun articles there is a chance Google will know and then you just ruined a good site.

    Stick to unique - better safe than sorry.
     
  16. madoctopus

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    Well not all make $100/mo. some make $1000, some make $5000, some make $10000, some make nothing. Is just that I consider a site that I spent 4 hours on and makes $100/mo a success since it provides decent ROI. Thing is 4 hours could bring me nothing, $100/mo or $1000/mo. And most important thing is they're BH friendly because if a site gets penalized (normally doesnt) I redeploy it in 15 minutes on a new domains and only have to redo the links which cost me about $200-400 if is a more important site.

    I also have pure WH sites, they're just not nearly as profitable.

    Now don't think my BH sites look anything like BH sites or spam. They're in fact better quality than most sites out there and most times better quality than the competitors in the SERPs. Even with a manual inspection, unless they spend a few hours reading and going through the site nothing looks out of place or poor quality.

    There's spam and there's dumb spam. I don't do dumb spam.
     
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    There you go... use spun content properly and it can work for you in some instances.

     
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    Mad - its a bit off topic but I have a few questions, if you dint mind. Over the years, I find your spinning technique quiet impressive.

    - Have you updated your technique recently?
    - What software are you using lately?

    Also, im curios about your site setup. Would you mind explaining your site set up a little bit?

    - You mention, you build a site and blast it with a a spun article to oblivion. Do you let it naturally index?
    - You said you work with a custom CMS, is it similar to the other popular CMS's with blog/page setup?
    - Do you do a silo style site or just do a more natural navigation?
    - Thinking about your KW research. It would seem to me that you have a few pages targeting your main KWs then the rest is just filler?

    Thank you
     
  19. InsanelySane

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    are you really that lazy you need to spin articles for a money site?

    are you making 50 money sites on the exact same topic? What is the need
     
  20. jenkinsbutler

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    If we use the spun articles, google penalize the site or not valuing the site, anything like that?