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Do you think link from popular sites are more beneficial than pbn's that no one visits?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Anonoptimization, Oct 17, 2015.

  1. Anonoptimization

    Anonoptimization Power Member

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    Wouldn't this make sense to be built into the algorithm to give less value to pbn's made for the sake of ranking.

    For example - you get two links to your website - one from a popular and busy site from your niche and another from a pbn which has good metrics but no one ever visits. It seems to make sense that the first link might have more power?

    What do you think?

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  2. Kralj187

    Kralj187 Senior Member

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    Obviously it would make more sense, but then all those people who put thousands of $ into there PBN would be screwed.
    Also you can send "fake traffic" to your PBN to push Alexa Ranking and there you have your super popular and very visited Tier 1 links

    Problem solved...
     
  3. seoestore

    seoestore Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Yes the 1st one will be better
    always if you can make your backlinks in natural ways, then do that or just make it like advertising for your website, Google will respect you then ^^
     
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    Kralj187 Senior Member

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    Dude did you even read his question? He asked if it would make sense for Google to change it's algorithm, not how Google would react about him receiving links from either PBN or trusted niche sites.
     
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    I think the algorithm is already more or less like that as it is. I do believe link traffic factors into their decision, just not as much as the link itself.
     
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  7. Anonoptimization

    Anonoptimization Power Member

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    To be fair I can't imagine Google has not thought of this before. Also I'm starting to change my tactic to try to get more links on popular niche sites related to mine over pbn's so I was wondering about this.
     
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    Try doing mix, you can also use SAPE instead of PBN if you are worried. There are good websites in SAPE that receive traffic, legit sites.
     
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  9. crosnake

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    Dude, do you honestly think that google would take alexa stats into their valuation or algorithm? Don't you think they have their own in-house SYSTEM for that? It's clear that they know exactly how much traffic you get from SERPS (With or without GA/WMT Installed on your site) and I'm pretty sure they know 100x better than alexa about your real sites traffic.


    To answer OP question. Yes I think the links from a popular sites are alot more beneficial. Why? Not just because they have "traffic" but how they obtain it. In most cases sites with real traffic are already ranked on google (Which means they have a healthier link profile already => stronger and safer seo juice to your site).


    In other words, backlinks from the sites that are already ranked on google are 20x much more valuable than from sites that aren't.


    This info is based on surface level and I wouldn't like to go in depth about this. Sorry for bad english.
     
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  10. Stizerg

    Stizerg Power Member

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    For Yandex the traffic to the site is ranking factor for a long time and Sape does offer 'traffic' metrics for links.
    I bet google use the traffic as ranking factor too, but it's probably a very small part of ranking algorithm.
     
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  11. accelerator_dd

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    Although we use it as such, PBN is not a type of link. Looking at it from a SE's perspective, those are domains with good content, good links and good history. By getting a PBN built, we are trying to trick Google into thinking one of those domains is the well established link you mentioned earlier.
     
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