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Do you think it's wrong to profit from peoples' stupidity?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by ButcherPete, Sep 10, 2012.

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Is it wrong to profit from peoples' stupidity?

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  1. ButcherPete

    ButcherPete Regular Member

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    This is BlackHatWorld, and while we're not a bunch of swindlers and thieves, and most of us provide products of genuine value to our customers/visitors, let's be honest: some of us here are promoting products that you know damn well are not worth the money... Penis enlargement, guides on how to win the lottery, Forex bots... The target market for these products is gullible people. Anyone with a shred of common sense knows that things like these do not work... Your penis size is what it is and you're stuck with it, the only way to increase your odds of winning the lottery is to buy more tickets, and no computer program available to the general public can "make money on autopilot" trading Forex. I'm just wondering what everyone else's opinion on this is...

    On one hand, you are making a profit from a person's bad decision; that is, spending money on something that does not work. For example, 90% of these "money-making guides" are worthless and scammy as hell, and poor people desperate for money purchase them hoping to improve their situation. They would have been better off saving that money for rent or their kid's college fund or something, but they bought that worthless e-book instead.

    But on the other hand, some would say it's just good business sense. It's not YOUR fault that they spend money on stupid things; that's just what they do. It's a lifelong habit. That money they spent buying some scam e-book from your affiliate link is just a drop in the bucket of bad financial decisions they have made.

    I'm not trying to demonize or accuse anyone of "taking advantage of people," I'm just wondering what everyone else's viewpoint is on this situation. Some of us have promoted products that we personally would not purchase in a million years (and I'll admit it, I've done this)

    - Do you think it's right, wrong, a morally grey area?

    - How much do you care or think about it?

    - How far would you go (or not go) to make money in IM? What is your moral limit?
     
  2. Catt Mutts

    Catt Mutts Junior Member

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    You don't need another $30 round in a bar also, don't you? There are far worse things on this planet going on than someone spending $37 on penis enlargement e-book. Much bigger and more dangerous scams are performed as we speak and the worst part is - innocent people just trying to make a salary and survive are performing it. Think of banks...

    I see it as a learning curve for those sheeple. Harder one though, but more effective. If they learn something out of their bad decisions - it's win-win situation. There's no way that the Earth will ever be 100% full of smart people, and they spend money as well.
     
  3. jacobik

    jacobik Newbie

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    True happiness comes from mutual satisfaction, I think it is only proper to do your best at all time. It is easier to sell/promote a product you believe in, as against one you don't. Success over time will come from all round satisfaction (seller and buyer)
     
  4. silentthunder

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    Wrong forum.

    "He who underestimates the intelligence of the American people will never go broke."
    -P.T. Barnum
     
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  5. ReALeST

    ReALeST Power Member

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    Its a rat race bro...u just have to do what u have to do...;)
     
  6. Duffers5000

    Duffers5000 Elite Member

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    The entire cosmetics industry is built on lying to people about wonder products that do not work.

    The entire cereal trade is based on selling mulch of no nutritional value to our kids that's " fortified with vitamins and Iron " when in effect all it's fortified with is sugar

    Big pharma spends billions on a cure for male pattern baldness, because they know that rich western men can and will pay for their drugs as opposed to poor sub Saharan Africans who cannot afford to pay for drugs to keep their children alive.

    Your comfortable clothes and new iPhone were manufactured by a 13 year old kid working 7 days a week for abou $250 a month.

    Banks sold mortgages to people knowing they would never have a chance off paying them back. The same banks sold savings schemes to long term customers that they knew would fall far short of the original investment even before they took in the first payment.

    Enron spent 1 billion dollars on a new nuclear power plant in India that could provide power for 25 million homes. They knew before they laid the first brick that none of these homes could afford to pay for the power but they didn't see the need to tell shareholders that. The result was a 3 billion dollar rise in share price bulked by a one billion dollar throwaway.

    I can go on here for ever but the bottom line is this as marketing goes we promote stuff that mostly people want to buy. That doesn't harm anybody and my conscience is 100% clear.
     
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  7. Catt Mutts

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  8. rodyc

    rodyc Newbie

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    Yes, it is wrong
     
  9. antsaoo

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    And someone wonders why there are herbs made into illegal drugs :p and ignorant sheeples saying " they wouldn't lie to us"
     
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  10. NikosX

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    hahahahah EPIC quote!!! I don't agree 100% on this (mainly cause its not only US...). But its the best paraphrase of Einstein's quote! hahaha
     
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  11. tashrif

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    Who is a rat?
     
  12. wareztrader

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    i think it's not good business, just relying on stupidity. On the long run it does not pay out. but make a real business with real value, that's some passive income right there.
     
  13. silentthunder

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    Thanks. People are sheeple. Frustrates me but doesn't stop me from marketing! Einstein!? :D
     
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  14. dbyrn

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    I would not sell anything, when I know that it's a pure scam.
    However even a very basic info could be helpful for people who are new to the subject.
    Remember that everything you do will eventually come back.

    Take care,
    D.
     
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  15. Nookie Monster

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    Ignorance is curable. Stupidity is for ever.

    None of us make stupid people. We do however give the market what it wants.
     
  16. mohammedsuhaib

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    if i take into consideration the examples given by you in the opening post then in my personal opinion i would say its wrong.. i would not employ such practices (promotion) myself.. so a big no from me.... there are numerous other niches one could target...

    some fellow members may say that's its perfectly fine but when i go to sleep every night i always recheck the things i had carried out in the day and always strive that there is none which i am ashamed of..

    am all for making money but one should make sure that he/she is able to see his client/customer in the eyes after selling a product/service...
     
  17. mohammedsuhaib

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    pls dont take it otherwise.. i just recalled a quote seeing your response..

    "The problem with the rat race is, you're still a rat." ~dont remember the author
     
  18. catardat

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    If you go to a bank for a loan that's the biggest scam ever and they have TV advertisements. Saying a product/service is very good just to get your cut, and in reality the product/service is bad or not that good, is where the money is. All the big boys work like this. Would you rather work 9 to 5 for some big corporation for cents? They do the same things but on a higher level. No, it's not wrong to profit from people. Do your thing! Make $XXXXX/month and drop the drama.
     
  19. kelvincuts

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    That is what business is for....we benefit from other people's ignorance and sometimes stupidity, so I'm wondering what's the big deal here, guilt?
     
  20. closedCaption

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    <sarcasm>No, I really think that a new face cream from whomever contains "active minerals" and "pearl extracts".</sarcasm>

    We are being manipulated all the time mate. Priests are telling you to stop masturbating while they rape kids. Wars are waged against countries with 5 combat planes, while in some God forsaken places like Somalia and Sudan you are being burned alive for stealing 5 potatoes. You are told to get student loan, only to find out that a) you will make someone profit by repaying it b) you become a relatively cheap workforce, since you have to repay that loan at the first place. We are being fed with polluted sugar-spiked/cancerous/God-knows-what chemicals that are being put in food only to increase industrial output and profits too.
    And if someone is too ignorant to do his research before he spends his money (and we are all guilty of that in some measure) on his third Penis enlargement books, I will be happy to take it from him, since it is obvious that he doesn't have real problems and has too much money on his hands (exercise for readers: how many people from North Korea could you make to buy that kind of stuff while there is a food shortage there?).