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Do You Steal Other Peoples CB Videos or Content? - READ THIS!!!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by BreaknBrix, Apr 14, 2014.

  1. BreaknBrix

    BreaknBrix Power Member

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    This could technically be put in the youtube section or clickbank. But I plead with mods to please leave it here.
    Because every marketer should really read this.

    I've been doing Clickbank for almost a year and I've had some videos removed... its part of the game... but I have never encountered something like what happened today.

    And I can't imagine the level of stupidity thats required, to think that you're going to make a long term income, by stealing other peoples content and trying to flaunt it off on your own.

    This is a blackhat forum, but stealing other peoples works does NOT make you a "blackhat marketer".

    You know what it makes you? A >>thief<<! A dumb, naive, stupid, pea-brained pos thief.

    I put 3-4 hours into this 1 video. Totally unique. No copyright violations. Video was high quality... so I doubt it was taken down by flagging. Because afaik, you have to
    actually break some rule for someone to flag / take down your content. Otherwise people would be flagging all the music videos they don't like and be taking those down.

    This video didn't make me a lot of money. In fact, it was my least profitable video ever. But I am still the one who made that video, ranked it, and own it. It made me maybe $100 - $150 / month.

    It was up for 4 months, so I stopped monitoring it for 3-4 weeks. Its one of my least important videos.

    Nevertheless, I come back, see the video is gone, someone stole it, was dumb enough to upload it to their account, waste money and time ranking it, voted up a bunch of comments for social proof, and is now making money from MY content... for only 2 weeks. Of which I estimate they made back exactly what they spent just to steal and rank it in the first place. And guess what? They happened to steal a bunch of other peoples videos as well.... not very wise if you ask me.

    LET THIS BE A WARNING TO ALL YOU CONTENT THIEVES!

    If you steal even 1 of my videos, a video I don't particularly even care about... I'm not just going to steal my video back and rerank it. I'm going to read all your comments that you naively left from your other YT accounts, find every foot print I can, trace your IP, trace your links, do everything in my power to find every account you've ever made on youtube... THEN I'm gonna LIGHT UP EVERY SINGLE VIDEO you ever uploaded in your entire life.

    Thats obviously a bit exaggerated but you get the point.

    Point being, you have to be a real special type of moron to think someones gonna ignore the fact that you not only stole their content... but wasted the time and money just to get my video taken down... when you could have just made your own video and tried to outrank me. You're NOT saving yourself any time. You're NOT doing anything slick. What you're actually doing is making your own life 100xs harder.

    The only way I see it working is if the video was done so poorly, it doesn't make money, the original creator forgets about it, so you wind up with what? A bunch of old, crappy videos that aren't gonna make you any money either way.

    But the content that actually makes money, you better bet your life that the original creator is not just going to steal it back, but if they're anything like me, they're going to wipe out your entire account. And any account connected to that account that looks like it belongs to you.

    LETS REXAMINE THIS 1 MORE TIME TO PUT IT INTO PROPER PERSPECTIVE

    What the marketer did -

    1) First, they had to spend money, send shitty views to my video and wait for it to get deleted. I do not believe it was flagged because I make my videos a very special way to avoid that. Even if they did, they still had to spend money / waste time doing whatever they did, then wait for my video to get taken down.

    2) Once my video is gone, they steal it, steal the description etc and upload it.

    3) They spend money on views.

    4) They spend money or time doing backlinks.

    5) They waste time doctoring up the videos with comments and voting them up.

    6) Most importantly, they make themselves a bright red target.

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    The consequences for this marketer?

    1) He now loses 5 videos (so far that I've identified, 3 on his 1 account and 2 newer videos from the one he used to comment with).

    2) All that money and time you spent to steal and rank my video, multiply that X5 and thats what you're losing now.


    Imagine... just imagine if he had the brains to make 1 original video of his own?

    He wouldn't have to watch his back like the Nazi's are after him.
    He wouldn't have to wake up everyday paranoid that his CB earnings are gonna drop to $0.
    He wouldn't have to keep stealing more & more content to support all the content he keeps losing.
    Fourth and most important, he will actually WORK LESS IN THE LONG RUN, because he's not making himself a target with every new video he uploads. He's not making enemies like me. And people for the most part will leave him alone.

    I'm not religious and I don't believe in kharma. But I 100% believe if you do stupid sh!t, stupid sh!t is going to keep happening to you.

    I've already dropped $75 to take down the 5 videos I found, and I'll gladly drop another $100 just to make a point. This is not a matter of money. This is a matter of principle. Keep your filthy, stinkn hands off other peoples hard work.

    /end rant
     
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  2. abhi007

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    well it cant be stopped it's going to happen with people stealing your videos and editing them....
     
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    damn that is messed up. that guy went a bit too far. He shouldn't of taken down your vid.
     
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    If you are such a weakling, I'd steal your video too.. this is internet, what do you expect?
     
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    I think people too often believe "black hat" and "fraud" are synonymous. In my opinion these are two different things.

    Stealing someone's work is fraud not black hat, and karmas a bitch.
     
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    The entire web is made up of "Copying & Editing" things, It's a part & parcel of the game.

    No matter how much you go on about it, It Wont stop.

    May be its stealing but Ranting about it wont make any difference, so accept it and move on.
     
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    they only way, you can show your right over the video is watermark them!

    internet is all about plagiarism. you should try posting this in warrior forum!
     
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    I've had some of my videos stolen, as well... but instead of ranting over it, I just move on. Yes, my original video was removed by YouTube, too...but I thought, if I spent a lot of time hunting the people who stole it, I better spend my time creating better ones and move on.

    And, techblog is right, do watermark your next videos. That's what I'm doing right now. Someone stole it, I have my website/domain name printed over it.
     
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    Stealing is not fraud. I stole your bike. I defrauded you to give me your bike.
     
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    Its obvious that this happens all the time however do you go through the proper precautions of watermarking your content, not just in the bottom right corner but in more strategic places where video editing becomes a nightmare for someone who will try to steal it.
     
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    Stop being mad OP you can't do shit about it.
    Instead of dreaming that you will get super powers and hunt those people down, step up to the game.
    This is Internet, the source of copy/pasting!
     
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    He says as he listens to his latest downloaded album and watches pirated movies like the pea brained dumb naive thief he is. What is it like to live the double standard hypocrites life?

    Ah wait there, no of course you do not download and thieve from the internet, and why not? Well denying it is the only defence you have.

    Well anyway, I will continue to download and steal content from Youtube, because I am dumb as fuck.
     
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    Rant or not many of you missed the point. This has absolutely nothing to do with black, white or purple hat marketing. This has to do with basic business strategies and making money.

    It is much more stable, consistent and profitable in the long term to make and rank your own content. To people saying "the nature of the web is to steal content" what does that mean? I think its ok to steal and spin an article if you need some 2nd tier links. Because you are not stealing a fundamental, valuable, piece of someones business.

    But if the foundation of your business relies on stolen content, then you have business backass backwards. It does not matter if its white or black, or if you're a criminal or a law abiding citizen.

    I'm talking about the bottomline.

    We are all aware, counterfeiting is a business.

    The question is, do you want to be Apple... orrrr, do you want to be the bottom - feeding - parasite - paupers who sit on the streets of China piecing together circuit boards, making fake air plane parts, fake everything orrrr, do you want to make real money have a real business be a real person & live a real life?

    To me, this is just not rocketscience.
     
  15. mickyfu

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    Stop trying to justify your own stealing, whilst ranting at others for stealing from you. I take videos all the time and I could not care less, but also, I could not care less when someone takes mine, and if they make money from them, good on them.
     
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    Looks like whoever stole your video made your life 100x harder, they are banking off of your creation, maybe even more than what you banked and you just wasted precious minutes of your life writing this rage thread meanwhile HES BANKING...WITH YOUR VIDEO.

    Jokes on you buddy lol
     
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    If you want to know what dumb and pea brained is, it is coming to a BH forum, signing up with the same name as your YouTube ID, then ranting about YouTube. Now you are saying look at my videos, copy my videos, here is my YouTube Niche.
     
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    "Good on them"?

    I don't believe that for 1 second. I don't think anyone else does either. If I steal your website and outrank you - you're reaction is NOT going to be "oh, what a good guy, good for him". Give me a break dude.

    I hope someone DOS all your sites, videos, everything, and you can come back to the forum and say "hey guys, it was no problem. I'm just homeless now cause everyone stole everything but GOOD ON THEM". -_-

    My user name is not my YT ID genius. How old are you? You keep saying some really naive, presumptuous things.
     
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  19. mickyfu

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    Then maybe you should stop downloading movies you hypocrite. Oh and about my websites, don't forget you are the one who just gave your YouTube channel away.
     
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    The internet is a wild wild west, and a niche is a goldrush...Intimidation tactics will only stop those who don't want to spend the time learning the new door opened up by the last fix.