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Do you own a Mac and think, you're safer than someone, who uses a Windows machine? Think again.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by HoNeYBiRD, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. HoNeYBiRD

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    It’s generally accepted that Macs are safer and less malware-prone than Windows PCs. But apparently it just became a rather dangerous misconception officially. A new report (State of Malware Report 2020) says that for the first time ever, Mac-specific threats outpaced PCs by a rate of 2:1 in 2019. The report comes from Malwarebytes, so it's not some funny study from "British scientists", what can be ignored. In 2019, the company detected an average of 11 threats per Mac endpoint compared to 5.8 threats per Windows PC endpoint. In 2018 this "competition" was close to a tie, so it's a significant increase from one year to another.

    The explanation is rather simple: in the same pace Apple increases its share on the market, bad actors become more and more motivated to develop adwares/malwares for macOS as well.

    So apparently Macs aren't as safe as they once used to be, although it's also true that Windows infections can be more dangerous, at least for now. The most prevalent Mac threats are adware and PUPs.

    Source: https://gizmodo.com/malware-threats-on-macs-outpace-windows-for-first-time-1841610874
     
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  2. VeeGeeN

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    That's a nice stereotype you have there lol.. almost like every country don't have the same funny study scientists who can push a press release every day to back another report..
     
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    Buy Malwarebytes for Mac now and protect yourself
     
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  4. RossVer

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    the reason why people use Mac is its safe, but now people need to think twice as the price is like heaven and earth!
     
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    Not really, people buy Mac cuz they don't know for better.
     
  6. virtualpurity

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    The only reason why Mac`s are safer in General for malware related threats ( not adware ) is because only a VERY FEW people use them and are not exploit worthy..
    If they were used by a bigger % of the population you would see exploits coming out for them on a daily bases..
     
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  7. RossVer

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    last 4-5years ago maybe, but nowadays we're in a E.sport/gaming era and i think windows is on the lead, maybe few people will still choose mac over windows for office work etc.

    point made!:)
     
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    I just don't see how "office work" is easier done on Mac than on Windows.

    Btw, you should check how to use multi-quote.
     
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    I'm both Win10 and Mac user. I choose Apple stuff because of higher quality hardware, seamless convergence with complimentary mobile devices and better built-in and cross device security.
     
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    I don't like to act as the devil's advocate here because even though I do have a Mac, I think apple is very hypocrite but....

    The fact that it comes from an antivirus company makes the study extremely biased. What are you expecting them to say? That there are less threats than before? Of course not! They want you to believe the entire opposite in order to sell you their software.

    But macs do have more security measures than windows. It's a more restrictive system. Macs are not only safer because less people use them. If that we're the case, then exploiting macs would be super profitable as the average Mac user has considerably more money than the average windows user.
     
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    Still enough?
     
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    ..and this is how conspiracy theories are born. Why would they need to lie about something like this? Mac is still not anywhere near Windows (Mac: 8%, Windows: 35%), when it comes to market share. Malwarebytes could have simply lied about the Windows numbers (those stayed roughly the same) and say that there were a lot more threats per endpoint in 2019 than in 2018 on Windows machines. Or why do it half-assed and why not do both? Lie about both the Mac and Windows numbers. That would have been able to generate them a lot more sales than just selling a few Mac licenses to a userbase, that is still convinced, that Macs are bulletproof.
     
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    Just saying, if you go ask an antivirus company if your system is secure what do you think you will get for an answer?
     
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    More "restrictive system" ? lol How is that ?
    What kind of more "Security measures" do they have ???
    Except that MacOS has a BSD code base and is very similar to Linux - you think that its harder to find exploits ?

    That is not true at all - In one country for example millions of people use windows and only thousands use Mac - do the math and you will see what is better.
     
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    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree -

    Well I like the fact that security is not something that macs compromise on - you get consistent security across the range. Regardless of your spec. You can enable disk encryption, compartmentalize with encrypted volumes. As for other built-in security, things like stealth mode to stop malicious traffic, or a more deep-rooted secure boot and built in password manager definitely help give you peace of mind.

    Their app store has more rigourous testing way their licensing with approved develoeprs means the Apps you get are naturally isolated from the rest of the system.

    Their security processing in general is pretty autonomous, far more intuitive and user-friendly, and doesn't require any real "tinekring" a world apart from your typical win based machine.

    Don't get me wrong, you can beef up a Win10 system no doubt, but with a Mac you can do so without worrying about any experiment in UEFI or BIOS "breaking"something, or finding out all your efforts securing your set up with core isolating and what not are in veign because your machine doesn't even have a tpm.

    You can be a Mac power user without needing to be a or work alongside an IT admin "professional".

    As for an antimalware company's views on them. Well yeah, the subscriptions they get keeps their food on the table. And i'm not even going to get into the conspiracy theories of them being double-agents in this game lol.
     
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    There is no safe OS or Machines! I'm using Linux, but one can never be safe! Especially when 90% of frauds and scams come from social engineering!
     
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    Just assume that if it's made by humans, it can be compromised by them too.
     
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    Criminals respond to market supply? Not exactly surprising.
     
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    We dont buy Mac because its safe.
    We buy Mac because is POSIX, it is very well designed and it lasts and lasts. Compared to other laptops the GPU wont suffer overheating.
    I have almost 7 years with my current MacBook Pro and it works as a charm, compared to my other Laptop that it started failing after 3 years old.
     
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