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Do You Know HTML/CSS?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by coreygeer, Sep 16, 2008.

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Do You Know HTML/CSS?

  1. Wtf Is HTML/CSS?

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  2. Nah.. I'm Rich And I Got A Guy Who's Got A Guy...

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  3. I'm Too Lazy To Learn That.

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  4. Hell Yeah I Know It, I'm A God At HTML/CSS Coding!

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  5. I'm Currently Learning It

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  1. coreygeer

    coreygeer BANNED BANNED

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    Ok.. I'll admit I'm guilty of Laziness.

    While it's not a necessity to make money online, I believe EVERY IMER should learn HTML/CSS/PHP/Java and other Web Development languages.

    I realized this when I tried to put up a membership site and I knew not a damn thing about Web Code and thought to myself.. "why the hell don't you know any Web Language?"

    It saves you so much time in the long run unless you've got a ton of money to spend on having people do the hard work for you then it's what ever I guess.

    So I've decided to make a poll out of this to see who knows their code.
     
  2. idk12

    idk12 Junior Member

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    i know quite alot about html/css know some php (want to learn more)

    but i agree that every imer should know html/css/php. it really helps when putting a site/ideas together.
     
  3. BozoClown

    BozoClown Junior Member

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    I learnt html/css and php all in one day. You need to find the right tutorials though.
     
  4. idk12

    idk12 Junior Member

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    got any suggestions for a good php one? cause i really want to learn more about it.
     
  5. BozoClown

    BozoClown Junior Member

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    hydroflame7 Junior Member

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    all in one day? sounds a bit too much :eek:

    anyways, why do people need to know java :confused:
     
  7. goawayplease

    goawayplease Regular Member

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    HTML, CSS, and PHP; definitely. Java; definitely not necessary. PHP will give you an understanding of C/C++/Java Principles and syntax, but you're better off learning VB or some other RAD like Python for App Dev.

    JavaScript on the other hand, is quite useful and shares syntax with CSS and ActionScripting.

    I'll try to upload some e-books and link them here later.
     
  8. yuppy

    yuppy Regular Member

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    im currently learning to master css/html. i can read code pretty well i just cant create code that well, thats what im going to have to work on...
     
  9. coreygeer

    coreygeer BANNED BANNED

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    Every programming Code has it's uses.

    http://w3schools.com - The Best Web Code Programming Tutorial Website On The Net

    This website is a god send for me.. It explains everything in great detail and is easy to understand. I spent 2 years without knowing a single line of code and I really wished I had studied it.

    Here is an entire list of everything I'm currently studying or plan to learn in order: (All on the W3Schools site)

    (HTML)
    HTML Tutorial
    XHTML Tutorial
    CSS Tutorial

    (XML)
    XML Tutorial
    XML Dom Tutorial
    XSL Tutorial
    XPath Tutorial
    XLink Tutorial And XPointer Tutorial
    Schema Tutorial
    Soap Tutorial
    RDF Tutorial
    WAP Tutorial
    DTD Tutorial
    XSL-FO Tutorial
    XQuery Tutorial
    XForms Tutorial
    WSDL Tutorial
    RSS Tutorial
    Web Services Tutorial

    (Browser Scripting)
    JavaScript Tutorial
    DHTML Tutorial
    AJAX Tutorial
    WMLScript Tutorial
    HTML Dom Tutorial
    VBScript Tutorial
    E4X Tutorial

    (Server Scripting)
    SQL Tutorial
    ADO Tutorial
    ASP Tutorial
    PHP Tutorial

    (.Net)
    .Net Microsoft Tutorial
    .Net ASP Tutorial
    .Net Mobile Tutorial

    (Multimedia)
    Media Tutorial
    SVG Tutorial
    SMIL Tutorial
    Flash Tutorial
     
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  10. Nick Flame

    Nick Flame Executive VIP Premium Member

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    If you are a newbie struggling to make money, then yes, you need to know some coding.
    If you are a pro, then you can afford your own programmer, so no coding experience is necessary.
     
  11. goawayplease

    goawayplease Regular Member

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    Okay they've been upped, grab the URL here:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ats-back-basics-ebooks-galore.html#post246003
     
  12. simo

    simo Junior Member

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    care to point us in the right drection - 1 day learn sounds good to me - i only got the basics don myself
     
  13. unlimitedpostings

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    I know quite a bit of html/css, but php still confuses me. If it gets too far away form html, I get confused. I'll admit that every language you can learn definitely gives you an upperhand.
     
  14. clickbang

    clickbang Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Here are the books I am reading...

    1) Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 For Dummies-400+pages
    2) HTML/XHTML/CSS For Dummies-400+pages
    3) PHP and MySQL Web Development For Dummies-500 pages

    HTML and CSS are easy to learn. PHP is kind of complicated. Hopefully I can become an online freelancer for building sites after reading all of them. :)
     
  15. coreygeer

    coreygeer BANNED BANNED

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    Just check out http://w3schools.com I'm planning to read up and learn every Tutorial they have. They're well outlined and what not.

    Unless someone has a better source to learn this stuff.
     
  16. Diabolik

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    I know enough HTML to be dangerous. CSS I don't see quite as important, though it helps. PHP is something I'd love to master, but I can only do a little of that. PHP definitely gives you an upper hand.
     
  17. goawayplease

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    CSS and JS can be a Black Hat's friend. Even just simple CSS things like knowing how to make a layer invisible to a surfer, or add a background image to an element.
     
  18. goawayplease

    goawayplease Regular Member

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    I'm pretty sure 2 & 3 are in the RAR I upped if anyone is interested... if not there is plenty of other PHP/MySQL and HTML/CSS stuff in there.

    As for learning PHP, if you have any basic programming knowledge it will serve you well. If you can understand concepts such as For Looping, Do While/Until, If/Else, Variables, and Arrays learning PHP won't be hard. Otherwise I'd recommend taking an Intro to C/C++ at a local college if you can. The syntax and logic in PHP and C are so similar it's ridiculous.

    After that, EBooks, Web Tutorials, and good ole' PHP.Net will help you figure out anything that doesn't make sense. Start with the core logic and syntax, then start narrowing your focus.

    Learning to program isn't just about functions and syntax, it's about a methodical way of thinking.
     
  19. Diabolik

    Diabolik Newbie

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    That's true, you make a good point there.

     
  20. BozoClown

    BozoClown Junior Member

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    If you want to learn html/css or php so fast, you need to find a tutorials that teach from scratch to finish by building a simple/average application.

    My previous post gives shows what I used to learn php in 3-4 hours.

    Here is how I learnt CSS, very same day. Go to
    Code:
    http://css-tricks.com/videos/
    and grab the video tutorials
    #1: Converting a Photoshop Mockup (part 1 of 3)
    #2: Converting a Photoshop Mockup (part 2 of 3)
    #3: Converting a Photoshop Mockup (part 3 of 3)

    Watch the videos from start to finish. Then do the same thing with a photoshop mockup of your own while rewinding/forwarding to the relevant parts of the video tutorial to copy the technique and/or code. 30 minutes into converting your own mock up you will already have the hang of it.

    When you are done, you can look at any other CSS tutorial and read through. Everything will make perfect sense because it will be explaining what you have already done.
     
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