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Do you know about Factory Farming and the terrible state of food we eat?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Ghoast, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Ghoast

    Ghoast Power Member

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    As there are people here from all around the world, I wanted to know how knowledgeable people are on factory farming and the crappy state of food production worldwide.

    If you don't know, here's the breakdown:

    Over 1 billion animals are kept in factory farms each year, used to produce meat, eggs and dairy for the world.

    However more than 50% of this meat is thrown in the bin. We also throw away 50% of ALL food that is produced..

    The food that is mass produced in this way (factory farming) and processed food, is detrimental on every level.

    We are using harmful pesticides that are responsible for the rapid decline in bee populations (no bees, no food as they are responsible for fertilizing crops and flowers) on the crops that are used to feed these animals.

    Crops that go to feeding animals don't go to feeding humans and you need tons of grain to feed just one animal. Grain that could be used to make thousands of loaves of bread.

    We are also polluting the atmosphere with these cancer causing pesticides leading to poor health.

    Animals are being fed with antibiotics and growth hormones. We have a situation now where people are dying from infections that antibiotics cannot cure due to consuming these antibiotic filled meats.

    Companies like Monsanto and Syngenta are creating an illegal monopoly on seeds, their aim is to own 100% of crop producing seeds. Basically if you're a farmer, you have to pay Monsanto for seeds as they are the only ones who have them. Their crops have been shown to cause cancer in tests. Their CEOs often change back and forward from positions in the FDA to Monsanto so that they can allow products that they have created to be sold on the public market.

    Then there is the cruelty aspect of all this.

    The factory farms treat the animals in an absolutely horrible way. They are packed in so tightly they can often not move around, they are fed with chemicals that make them grow so big and so fast, lots of them have broken bones and cannot even walk. This goes for all animals in factory farms which account for 80% upwards of worldwide meat.

    Then the people who work in these farms are also mistreated too. In the US for example, they are mostly immigrants from Mexico and South America who are recruited in Latin America. Made to work long hours for no pay, and then to stop them complaining they are routinely deported by the authorities, on the command of the companies who operate these factory farms.

    I just wanted to get an idea for how mainstream this knowledge was. When I discovered this, I was quite disgusted and I changed my eating habits quite a lot. I still eat meat, but I always check to make sure it comes from a humane farm that will not use antibiotics or growth chemicals on its animals.

    If you haven't heard anything about this then I recommend watching the following documentaries which I thought were extremely interesting:

    Example of Factory Farmed Pigs:




    Trailers:

    FOOD INC:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKYyD14d_0

    DIVE:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HlFP-PMW6E

    Had you heard about this before, how is it in your country?

    Oh and for those of you who say, 'fuck it, I love meat' - I love meat too! It's about farming in a responsible way that means we can enjoy meat, animals get treated right, the environment doesn't suffer and the workers who spend their time in farms aren't mistreated either!
     
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  2. funkybunker

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    I'm positive there's a better way to farm, but consider this obstacle:

    More humans are born every second & we can't raise enough animals to feed them. A little "mom n' pop" farm may sound nice, but can it feed the entire globe?
    Plus if food companies gave away what they didn't sell...people would just wait until then. Nobody would make money.
    Scientists are fixated on making edible food-like products to counter this. Because we need MORE processed shit after all.
     
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  3. Illini

    Illini Junior Member

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    I'm so tired of this argument against GMOs, and the rise of corporate/factory farming. How else DO YOU propose we feed an ever growing population, when we CAN NOT at the moment even provide for those already on this Earth.

    Yes I will concede cutting down on wastefulness would have a profound impact, but it would simply not be enough EVEN IF it were possible. What is possible through science and consolidation of operations though, is that ability to make more food on the same amount of space in the same amount of time.
     
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    Feels like I just watched animal farm. Animals living on the lowest possible means possible.
     
  5. mickyfu

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    What does amuse me is people who will not buy caged hens eggs, but then go and buy their clothes from shitholes like Primark.
     
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    Yea they care so passionately about that poor hen, but could not be bothered with worrying about the human being who is being abused to make their clothing
     
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    If you want to raise an animal for your pleasure and that of it, get a pet.
    If you want to eat meat at the price you demand, let the farmers do their thing.

    ("You" of course being the collective consumer:))
     
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    Mate, this is becoming more and more common in UK, people would rather buy shit food, shit clothes and spend the rest on a decent phone and booze, and then we look around like headless chickens thinking why're all becoming so fucking obese.
     
  9. ebusin3ss

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    Its the agenda of the elite.
    It has many purposes.
    Decreasing popultion because of ilness (cancer)
    Eugenic (getting people sick and infertile .Why do you think do we got now so many cancer and infertile people
    Food control (controling the food=control of a nation)

    Thats propaganda nonsense.
    Todays youth are not educated well.Sorry its not your fault but their agenda.Food isnt food.
    You need to understand which is important is the amount of nutrisions,minerals,vitamins etc in a food.

    An example is a single orange.
    An orange from a normal farm has on average arround 10.000 units of the Vitam D4 which is important for the protection against cancer.
    Do you know how much units D4 an orange has at discounter on average ?You wanna know ? Its 12 units. 1/9000 of the volume from the normal orange.So tell me know which food is better.
    Another example an apple.A normal apple has arround 10.000 diffrent vitamins.An apple produced by big companies just 100.
    Tomates which never saw soil......etc

    its just poor food where you need to eat at least 10 times more to get the same amount of nutritions or minerals to your body.Does that really make sense ?
    And no we dont have an issue feeding the world.We are creating the issue ourself by sending our rest meet to africa for peanuts and destroying their local meat farming because noone can compare against these prices.We are sending from the EU massivly Milk which will be sold way under the production cost so how do you expect people are going to feed themself if buying from EU is cheaper.
    The sames goes to the clothes from red cross.You think they are provided to the poor ?No they are sold to companies who are reselling them in africa at cheap prices and who destroyed just in a single country 80.000 work places for textiles.So instead of helping by don*ating your old clothes to red cross you are destroying the local econemy in africa.

    And coming later and saying we need to use GMO sh*it because we need to feed the world IS A FU*CKING JOKE for people who belive in every sh*it
     
  10. TheVegan

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    GO VEGAN!!!
    hahaha sorry guys I would never troll the forums promoting my ideals
    buuut then I saw this post so had to do it! :)
    last time I promise
     
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  11. Smart SEO

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    Im curious how do you guys get your protien? Like you must eat a fuck load of nuts and seeds and shit. Not hating btw im actually interested
     
  12. ebusin3ss

    ebusin3ss BANNED BANNED

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    thats untrue information.There are lots of olimpyc athlets who are 100% vegan or eat just raw food and they have absolutly no issue with proteins.
     
  13. Ghoast

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    We already have raised enough animals to feed them. At the moment we produce enough food for DOUBLE the population. Problem is we also throw 50% of it straight in the trash. The problem here isn't that we don't have the means. The problem is the infrastructure that is producing and distributing food is broken in the sense that not everyone who needs food gets it, and huge amounts of food are thrown away - up in the 10s of billions of pounds of food.

    Again, we can and do provide enough food for the inhabitants of the earth. The problem that we must find a solution to is the best way to distribute and preserve the food that we produce. Just producing more food doesn't solve the problem, it just means we throw away even more food.

    And the energy that goes into creating all this food comes straight from fossil fuels. So you're not just wasting food, but also other important resources.

    Foods like Hemp seed have all the protein you need. All essential amino acids, a 'complete' plant protein. The real problems for vegans lie in vitamin intake. Vitamin b12 is very hard to get from non animal sources. And things like calcium and iron are hard, but not impossible to get.
     
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    My daughter came home one day and said she wanted to be vegetarian. Of course I supported her. 6 months later and we haven't touched meat since. My cholesterol has plummeted. My health is much better. I have noticed no drop in energy levels. There are some excellent movies about it. 'earthlings' 'eating' and many others. Needing meat for protein is a myth.... just my opinion... but it sure feels good doing my bit for the planet
     
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  15. erickishere

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    Watched food inc in highschool. Pretty crazy stuff kinda changed my point of view with food but what can you do about it :/ population is growing and we have to resort to this
     
  16. Leaver

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    Honesty it sucks. I watched a movie on Netflix called food matters which explains how what we eat can cause cancer and other harmful diseases and they said sugar is more addictive then hard drugs.

    It's hard to avoid it. Just try to live as healthy as possible. Avoid eating out at McDonalds and similar places and stay healthy overall.

    I haven't been eating red meats because I read that it causes cancer and it says in the Bible not to eat the blood of life which I would assume is red meat as it's bloody.

    I've also been tryin to avoid pork. People say it's super unhealthy, it's difficult because pork is so yummy....bacon!

    Anyways what I'm trying to say is there's no avoiding it
    but we can do our best to try to stay healthy.


    I really wish cigs were banned. It sucks that so much people feel it's necessary for them to smoke.
     
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  17. TheVegan

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    Yeah sure! all kinds of stuff like beans / legumes, certain grains, certain vegetables also have good protein like avocados and broccoli, and soy of course :)
     
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  18. Illini

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    GMOs, and to the person who quoted me and talked about food lacking the nutrients we need, I have a simple answer GMOs
     
  19. Wealthy Wisdom

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    I'm very aware of this issue, and I've been changing my diet to more organic foods. We have great local fruit / vegetables here in my state. The quality is amazing..

    I also found a site that delivers high quality meat which is strictly grass fed, grown in a humane environment, you know... the way animals are supposed to be raised. Yes, expensive as hell but what can you do...

    My family eats mostly gmo, and I know theres no way I can completely switch my habits over night but i'm getting better. It's also smart to drink lots of water and exercise.

    Good luck guys
     
  20. Groen

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    My parents always used to tell me that for every study you can find that proves one thing, you can find two which disproves it. I think when people have fallen victim to the propaganda from PETA that all farm animals are tortured as much as possible, it is hard to view things from a different perspective.

    Anyways, animals are food and nothing more, it is a plus to me if they have not suffered. Should they have suffered I would not know and it does not taste different. Also I believe enough in goverments to not intentionally allow people poisioning our food.