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Do you disclose your website to hired writers?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Zatoichi, Jun 8, 2017.

  1. Zatoichi

    Zatoichi Junior Member

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    Hello BlackHatters,

    I am about to start the process of hiring writers for my website for the first time.

    One question I didn't find the answer to is this one: Should I disclose my website to a freelance writer or not? I know some people give contributor access to a writer so they can post directly to a website, which is something I am not going to do.

    I'd also just started writing instructions for the writers. I hope to be as precise in my instructions as possible but as I am doing it first time I'm not sure I will remember to cover everything needed.

    If you have some good tips about what to include in the writers instructions I would appreciate it very much.

    I decided I will make two documents. One will be general instructions how I want my product reviews to be done (universal information applicable to every project) , and other document will be something like a "work order" (for those familiar with a manufacturing terminology) where I will put information about specific assignments.

    If you have any tips about this whole process it would be awesome.

    Regards,
    Zatoichi
     
  2. Reaver

    Reaver Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I'm just here to see how many people offer you their writing services instead of answering your question.
     
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  3. whiteblackseo

    whiteblackseo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I've had an article writing BST before. Most of the customers wanted to keep their sites private.
     
  4. littlewebdragon

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    Yes Zatoichi
     
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  5. Masterofeverything

    Masterofeverything Registered Member

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    100% Private. I'm about to do the same. Obviously your site prices are higher than your writer price.

    They seem to think you shouldn't make a profit. I learned that lesson a few months ago. Always stay under the radar, for more reasons than one.
     
  6. bartosimpsonio

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    It depends on the kind of agreement you have with the writers. Most the writers don't require any credit, you buy the articles and use them wherever you want, they don't care where you post the content.
     
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    I have a client who shows me sample articles from different sites so that I know what tone to write in. You can do that. That way they won't see your site but they'll get a clear picture of what you want.
     
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    It depends on certain factors. For example, the type of content, the agreement and your SEO policy. If you have web content, there's no option of providing a contributor account, or disclosing your website details. All you need to say is the name of your service. When it comes to Amazon affliates or any type of affiliates, once again, you don't actually need a contributor account. You can give access to the writer, and tell him/her to update the content directly on the site (this will save you time or the cost of a VA). However, make sure that you trust the writer, and also, the content is free from errors (think of a situation where you put in copied content, and get a manual penalty. :):)) And since you said, you don't want that, so you are safe from that count. :)

    When it comes to blog, this is where you need to think if you want to provide the details to the writer or not.

    If you really don't want to provide any info, just provide some sample URLs (not your own, but maybe your competitors, or the ones you are planning to refer to for tone and content level), and use them as samples, in addition to your instructions. You can also copy them on MS Word (if you don't want to share links), and send them via email or any other method you use to communicate with the writer. (When you send in links, and the writer clicks on it, it is counted as a session in Google, so it's free traffic. I wouldn't want to send those free traffics to my competitors especially).

    Also, one more thing, if a writer wants, he/she can back trace and know where the content is placed. :) Just so you know, that at the end of the day, sharing the website or not sharing doesn't have much effect. Why? Because if someone wanted to find your website, they would.
     
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  9. Masterofeverything

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    In the respect of tracking down the articles, it's a simple process. If they was so good at that type of work and research, they wouldn't be writing for others IMO.

    Nothing to worry about, me thinks.
     
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    If I had a niche site I wouldn't want to disclose it at the risk of the writer stealing my niche.

    If it was a site for a business I wouldn't mind.
     
  11. DevXM

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    I too like to keep my websites hidden from writers. But sometimes you develop a good relationship with a writer and show him the website like: "this is the website you will be writing for. just pick a topic that hasn't been written about before on this site and have at it". --> I do this when I just need filler content and am not targeting a particular keyword.

    I'd suggest you do what @alwaysinvisible says, show the writer websites related to yours so he can get an idea of the type of content you need (but don't show your own until you trust the writer).
     
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    No matter you give them or not, in the end writer just copy some random stuff from that article paste on google and will get your site.
     
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    This is a very tricky one because it depends on alot of factors? What areyou writing about? Review, Amazon or Blog Post?

    If it's a Blog Post, you can give it out so the writer can check related articles and link them internally - Good for SEO. Never give access to post directly, you may need to adjust or fix somethings before hitting publish....

    For example, I write articles and optimize it for blogs using YOAST SEO Plugin recommendation as a measuring tool. knowing your url will be good. I don't agreet to publishing it myself.... I optimize and send you the HTML , Meta Description, Slug etc and allow you copy and paste.

    In summary, it depends on what service the writer is offering or what serviceyou need.

    Off - key: Contact me for your blog articles (except Pharma, Adult, Gambling and Sport). PhotoGrid_1496583594806.jpg
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    Yes, I do it when I hire someone to design some thumbnails or infographics for my site So that they match the design to my site's design.But No when i am hiring someone to write an article and I don not think there is any need to do so
     
  15. wuptii

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    I want to share an experience i had with a young freelance writer.

    Basically i had 2 freelancers that wrote on the same website for me, at some point i needed another one, because they could simply not keep up. I found a young guy with a passion for the topic my website was about, after some months i stopped using him, simply because the 2 other freelancers got more time to write for my website, and i prefered their work over hes.

    3 to 4 months after i stopped working with the young freelancer, i stumpled onto a website, that had basically had all the same kind of articles mine had, of course they were not copied, but the general idea behind every article on the site, i could trace back to my own.

    I started to dig deeper into who's site it was, when it was created, ect.

    To my disbelief i found out that it was the young freelancer, who had picked my site for article ideas and basicly made an copy of my site just after i stopped working with him and tryed to now be an competitor of mine.

    Its the first and only time i have experienced this, in my 10 years of working with internet marketing and freelancers in general, but i would advise that you dont disclose your website to the writers if you can, i know in some instances its an advantage to be able to show the writer what site they are writing for.

    If you decide to show your website, i would advise that you make some kind of contact, that makes it impossible for the person to become a direct competitor to the given site.

    Hope this helps you out
     
  16. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    What is the real concern if you are hiring professionals?
    If you are hiring the cheapest clowns you can find, then you might have some problems.
     
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    You are kind of funny. Content and not disclosing website... Anyone with a two bit brain can do a copyscape a month later or pick a sentence and discover your site.

    Not sure what makes you so secretive about your site, but if you are looking for exclusivity or ghost writing, you can find professional writers who do that.
    They might make a reference to your website about the writing style or samples, but beyond that you are safe and covered.

    Of course, this will all change if you throw in the word cheap. Then you can kiss "whatever privacy you think you have for your website" goodbye!
     
  18. SensualTyrannosaurus

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    Next topic, do you disclose your website to a link building service? LOL
     
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  19. Zatoichi

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    Thank you all for responding!

    Based on all of your answers I see there is not any benefit for me to disclose my website to the writers. I want to do all on-page seo myself, including revising the articles where necessary for kw density, lsi inclusion and so on...

    I am aware that they can find out my website if they wish, as I could do it easily enough myself. This just lowers the probability somewhat.

    Including quoted text for reference is a great idea and I will add that to my instructions. I had found some great examples of product description writing which I couldn't replicate in style, but hopefully the writers I find will be able to.

    When I started working on instructions I realized how hard is to explain and systematize properly the stuff I have been doing my self to try to produce article that ranks well + plus host of other angles to cover.

    It seems that working in secret just gives you a lot more freedom to do your thing without obstruction of any kind.
     
  20. xjapan

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    disclose or not, at the end the writer still can find your website with copyscape