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Do you build to last, or build to cash in until penalized?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jon_xx_x, Aug 10, 2013.

  1. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Curious to what some of the successful people ($2000+ per month) here do.
    I've always built sites to last long term, and sprinkle in some BH links. Of course, ometimes I get greedy and carried away, and they end up getting hit.

    So who here tries to build authority sites to last long term, with safe links.
    And who here finds what's working, exploit the fuck out of it, and cash in until Google hits you? And repeat? Say on bigger $ keywords?

    As I try to keep it fairly clean, when a site does get hit, it can really mess with your emotions, especially if you're losing a good EMD.
    Now I was thinking about creating a site(s) that are pure dirty black hat, get it to the top of the search engines, cash in until Google penalizes, and repeat. It can be days, weeks, months before being hit by Google. This way, you don't have to be as conservative with what you throw at it, and you KNOW it's going to get hit, so you don't get frustrated when it happens.

    Which do you do? Does anyone here make a nice income on solely going all out BH on a site to cash in for a short period of time, and repeat over and over? Kinda like the payday loan market?
     
  2. dinkish

    dinkish Power Member

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    $2k (average) a month doesn't sound successful. I was doing this in a volatile niche and making around that instead of spending twice the labour hours working part time.

    I think you nailed it on the head though with *knowing it's going to get hit*, because in the end, if you do anything grey hat or blurred between the lines of Google's tolerance, and something that isn't explicitly considered not obeying at the time, you'll still get bitch slapped down the line anyways and hope to recover. That's assuming you aren't "sprinkling" a little BH into your diet.
     
  3. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    No, not hugely successful for full time obviously, but some for part time, but also atleast shows you can make money. I should have did $5000+ but I wanted to make sure i got atleast a few opinions.
     
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    i go only long term.....because i am lazy and like to built some and let it earn ;).
     
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    I build to last, still own several sites that have made me money since 08 and are still making money today. Building sites today that keep making me money that long...
     
  6. dinkish

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    Totally get where you are coming from. Didn't mean to bash or correct you either, so hope you didn't take it that way.

    I went from making a respectable flow, to taking time off and enjoying life, to now doing white hat shit and making no where near what I had. Right now I'm helping people I know are worth the time, and not taking the time to invest in myself.
     
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    Depends what niche you are in. For something like payday go with build to cash and for something like amazon store go with build to last. :)
     
  8. hardcorebiker

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    I do both, short term as well as long term methods. Short term ones help in cashing out and funding your future projects and also to diversify your income. These days you cant even rely on 1 long term site too because I have seen top notch sites being penalized very badly for no proper reason.
     
  9. dinkish

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    Yeah... I've heard this expression before, but it wasn't applied to Google: Either you can be the fucker, or the fuckee.
     
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    Most of my plan/website is for long term... I do progressive work and I keep checking progress, I'm not progressing then I try to find the reason.