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Do you also feel that IM is a Very Lonely job?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by rulingim, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. rulingim

    rulingim Newbie

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    You dont talk to anyone, and you dont have to communicate. At some point it becomes boring and when you compare your job with others working in corporates then I feel low because even if they earn less money they get lots of facilities and they make friends in their company and meet people, organize picnics, flirt and relationships.

    But in IM its all money which is sweet but you feel very lonely at the end of the day...All of my friends are either working or doing further studies. They are actually enjoying life and they dont much care about their earnings(Maybe they do but it gets balanced with their lifestyle)

    What do you think?
     
  2. mikemeth

    mikemeth Power Member

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    Depends what type of person you are. I know working for my own is much better than working for some firm in my Country with monthly payment which I can earn in few days doing IM. Also doing IM I can have more free time for me or hanging out with friends and work is not as hard as it would be to work for some Firm.

    Don't you have family around you? I have a wife and family around me and sometimes it is just hard to work in peace.
     
  3. rulingim

    rulingim Newbie

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    Well i live with my dad and mom(Just 22 now) not married...I also have friends but they are all busy with their work and further studies.
     
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    I am a damn crazy guy. I know that IM can be dull and at times extremely boring. This is one of the reasons I go for a morning jog. This is the time when I meet numerous people. How? This may sound insane but I smile whenever my eyes meet someone and seeing them smile back makes my day. We have to accept that there are people out there whose lives are worse than ours and during such worse times, if you make them smile, it feels heavenly. I live in India, where people are conservative and don't smile back easily but I have actually made smiley friends ( we exchange smiles every morning :D). That's not all. Not far from my house is a playground and this is where I spend some awesome moments everyday. Here, I play cricket, badminton or football depending upon my mood. There are people playing cricket, football and badminton, so all you need to do is, politely ask them to play and 99% you're successful because people still are kind hearted, we just fail to see their true self.

    Anyways, there's more I would like to share. I have made friends with the ATM security guard, the newspaper vendor, and many other vendors near my house and these guys have tons of life experience. Whenever I am bored, I just move out of house and sit by their side and start a conversation and they are more than happy to continue the conversation. I have learnt innumerable things from these guys whom a majority of us ignore thinking as petty people.
    We are never alone until we start believing ourselves to be alone. Cheers :)
     
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  5. IMwizard

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    well i used to feel the same..But than i rented an office and got 3 employees ....

    right now there are 45 people calling me BOSS...... and we party every saturday
     
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  6. rulingim

    rulingim Newbie

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    Nice man..Its my dream.. What kind of work you do in office? I just build sites so I am not sure whether its right to get an office
     
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    Yeah. I agree with you. That's why i have a lot of people doing im in my skype list to chat when i feel bored. Of course, i do have many friends outside also. But i visit them only on weekends
     
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    I wouldn't agree with your fact that you are not communicating much, i do, with a lot of people, from all around the world and it's amazing, way better then speaking to same people for 15 years in some company :D, besides i can take a vacation when ever i want, i can earn 10 x more than the highest payed person in my country and have plenty of time for other stuff.

    IM is lonely job only if you are lonely person.
     
  9. ouchthathurts

    ouchthathurts Regular Member

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    I wouldn't say lonely but I do find myself with little to say in regards to my working week as its just me in my bedroom. Wake up, get coffee, check emails, process orders, check ppc campaigns, check forums, have lunch, walk the dog, check emails, process orders, check ppc campaigns, check forums,have dinner,check emails etc etc

    The average person just doesn't get excited about you nailing a 0.60% CTR and raising your conversion ratio by 2 or 3% its all Gobbledygook to them and I actually feel like a bit of an ass trying to explain it

    I do miss the banter you get at a normal job, sure the wages are shit in comparison, and you prob hate your boss and a few people who work there but you come away from a days work with a story, something funny you seen at work or heard or something someone said.

    I would not trade places however, this IM thing has unlimited income and I like being able to say "I work for myself" - I'm always looking ahead for new projects and ideas to bring in extra income which keeps me motivated and positive
     
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  10. rulingim

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    Well, its better to meet same people daily and form a relationship instead of randomly chatting(That anyone does). Forming relationship is what IM makes it difficult as we dont meet people on daily basis. Forget about getting a Girlfriend. If i was doing a 9 to 5 job I could have atleast have some female friends. I do have female friends but they are too busy with themselves.. :(
     
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    Where are you living, on an only island that you earn 10x more than the highes paid person in your country :) ?

    Regarding the topic, an ideal Online Marketer works not only alone, but with other great people aswell in a office, where ideally he's the leader!
     
  12. LakeForest

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    Yeah it's lonely.

    Until you succeed.
     
  13. rulingim

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    Agree with this. You will always miss the fun which people have when they are not working in a corporate. Watching movies,attending functions etc etc. Lots of fun. Ofcourse their job might suck but at thee end of the day they dont feel sorry and they are excited for tomm that what will happen in the company

    Here in IM its the same day. Ofcourse those CTRs and conversions feel good but how can we explain that to others..Other than BHW ofcourse...but you can express you happiness in IM to any normal person...while if you were working you could say you anything and people would appreciate
     
  14. cocococo

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    If OP can afford a service office, thats way to go, they cheaper and also in the middle of other companies sharing offices too, that way you get to meet new people, if you smoke that sure way to get into talking with other office worker.

    Have worked at home before, now working 9-5, and nothing beat been able to come home and share your day to day with the mrs, who pisses you off, who shouted at client, who lost deals shit like that.

    Small details, like driving on motorway ya get to see different thing, rather than stuck at home and be miserable, have had the share of that.
     
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    Kind of.

    It helps to be generally antisocial, introverted, etc. I find I actually prefer doing a job where I'm not forced to pretend to be interested in office gossip, how people are doing, if their dog/child is house-trained, or similar time-wasting bullsh*t. Small talk is the bane of my existence, and encompasses pretty much every office interaction.

    I guess I can't agree with you, since loneliness to me is the absence of others when you want them (basically), and I rarely feel a need for human contact while I'm working.

    Maybe I'm just a misanthropic assh*le, who knows.
     
  16. twistedtrick

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    I share many of the same sentiments as the above poster! I feel like a prick not participating in small talk or being standoffish at the very least when it happens, but it just isn't for me. Building solid relationships with X people is infinitely more valuable to me than knowing the name and 1 fact about XXX people in my area.
     
  17. jmcs23

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    I would love to be able to work fulltime in IM just so I wouldn't have to deal with people all day!


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  18. GoTRooT

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    I think the niche draws mostly those comfortable with such an existence.Just try not to turn into comic book guy, go out for at least 1 20 min walk a day.I just had a custom hand build bicycle built for me, my dream bike, it sits in the corner and reminds me to go outside :)
     
  19. Griffin

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    Gonna break this into two sections.

    Relationships:
    When I first got really interested in IM (enough to dabble), I was in a long-term relationship. Because I was researching, reading, coding, working so much, it got to be that my partner only saw my back some days. Nowadays, I code and design for most of my income, and ended the relationship for other reasons. But it definitely put a huge strain on our relationship.

    You definitely have to learn to prioritize, and put yourself in the other person's position if you're in a relationship. There are a lot of people who go to bed with their partner and then get up a couple hours later to set up ad campaigns for the next day. Lots of people do IM on their lunch break at their main job. If you have a relationship, the big things are time management and making them feel special.

    Friends/Socializing:
    This is still a big problem for me. Most of my friends are worldwide. So I've got friends in London, Manhattan, Berlin, Melbourne.... But only a couple in my town at any given time. And I travel a lot too. It's hard to maintain friendships if you're not out and socializing.

    So I'm trying to change that as much as I can. Signed up for relevant groups on Meetup.com, making email connections with people near me, and going to code-related events. It helps a lot, and I'm just getting started. When you talk to people, it helps to say something broad like you run a business, make websites, design graphics, or work in sales. No one really cares what niche you're in, or what a niche is for that matter.

    Having said all that, I still manage to be pretty lonely at times. Kind of a consequence of working by yourself. I'm looking into some co-working spaces to fix that.
     
  20. switch_2012

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    I am sorry but i dont agree - if you are a professional you dont have time to mess around and do all those things you mentioned. Of course if you are teenager just come out of collage, doing a deadend job then its different. When you earn enough money trust me you will have a good social circle. Make sure to go out with your mates and do all the things mate..