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Do not buy seo services from bhw

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  1. TheGreyWun

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    This is my own personal list of sellers that have either scammed or lied about things to me. I will post more in the coming days if BHW lets me post ( I keep getting inappropriate content error )
     
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    Hi guys, welcome to a trash thread. You are welcome to post any terrible PBN providers here without repercussion, I myself am using a second account since some of these PBN providers actually contact me on skype day and night and I'm somewhat paranoid they might negative SEO my sites if they see who I am. I am from india and one of my main sources of income is seo so I am very afraid that some of these sellers would pureposely try to negative SEO my site if I reported anything using my real account. Using this means I don't have to worry about it.
    Reasons NOT to buy from here:
    1.) Lying about backlink quality
    I bought some PBN service a while back, i cant remember now but they were the cheap 1.5$/post ones. DO NOT BUY THESE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!
    The backlinks for these sites are all hacked/GSA Spam, looking on majestic the TF is indeed 20+ but the majority of the backlinks are from either: Random Profiles or on tier 2 PBN's themselves.
    2.) Completely Lying About Metrics
    This is just a small list of PBN providers that I've used or have had friends use that lie about their metrics:
    (This is not like a 5 point difference, this is like claiming 15 TF when 90% of the domains have TF of 0)
    Sarkark21 Service "galaxy aged PBN"
    The DA of these links are pretty much what he says, but DA is so easily manipulated it doesn't make any sense why he would use it unless he was trying to sell lies to noobs.
    Hardcorebiker's PBN "Elite Rank auction domains"
    This service claims an average TF of 15, the best blog I got as a backlink had a TF of 13. Nuff said
    7th sense homepage links
    I don't even want to talk about it
    4. Just pure trash
    Dezine emporium niche relevant comments
    Claims - Highly Niche relevant, Manual comments
    The content is obviously spun.
    Here is a sample of the comment about health (My niche was a excercise product (something that has nothing to do with swimming BTW)
    If you want to get better at swimming, you need to make sure you have good swimming goggles. Swimming goggles are good for not only your eyes (My URL)
    The site it was posted on was an inactive blogspot with content related to height growth, yes, height growth. Does that have ANYTHING to do with an exercise product?
    Its obviously spun - 1st lie
    Its obviously not manual - 2nd lie
    the site its on is not niche relevant at all - 3rd lie
    out of all the services I've had this is the one with the most lies possible.
    3.) Just generally being annoying as hell on FB/Email
    I made the mistake of adding several PBN providers on FB and Email, they now spam me with messages almost DAY IN AND DAY OUT and its annoying as HELL.
    Authority Man
    Furious man
    MissionER
    Strix Media
    7th sense
    They constantly message me asking for orders (Which I never do), they constantly tell me about their new services and never stop.
    4.) Selling from the same link services
    I'm sure you've seen the thread "BHW Sellers linked to each other", but I've had MANY Times when buying guest posts/PBN's where the samples of the sites are the EXACT same website.
    I've bought 5 services (And that count won't go up any time soon) from BHW
    I've inquired about 10, 5 about PBN's and Guest posts specifically.
    3 of those sellers have the EXACT same guest posting sites.
    What does that mean? They are getting these links from the same reseller and probably selling it to us for 50% more.
    5.) Using misleading/obfuscated graphs to create reviews
    Some of these providers gave ranking graphs over email or PM or Facebook and they give graphs that have the search volume cut out or the position part cut out. Once a seller actually forgot to cut the position out and it turns out the position was actually only going up TWO SPOTS. TWO SPOTS.
    One provider gave me a graph and forgot to cut the keyword out and the search volume was ZERO.
    6.) Giving the best domains to review copy people to create good reviews
    This is just me guessing since I cant really speak since I am not a person who ever got a review copy.
    How is it possible that a reviewer comes up with these stats:
    DA 20+
    TF Avg 13
    CF Avg 10
    RD Avg 100
    (These stats are from memory I forgot the sellers name)
    and the ACTUAL stats of 20+ Blogs be
    DA 7
    TF Avg 0
    CF Avg 5
    RD Avg TEN
    FREAKING TEN?
    REALLY?
    Claimed stats:
    RD 100+ (On Skype)
    This is just pure trash they are selling.
    7.) People who give good reviews don't realize something VERY important
    This is again just speculation as to why there are so many good reviews for TERRIBLE services.
    If you keyword is only ranking in the top 100 + you website already has a amount of pillow links
    20-30 Homepage posts are going to increase your site no matter what, there are many thread thaat have good reviews from these noob people.
    Truth is:
    It doesnt matter how bad the blogs actually are, the majority of the sites for any keyword up until the 3rd page are completely trash. If your site recives 30 contextuals from TF 3 PBNs they will still increase either way. A movement from 80-30 isnt really anything if the 50 sites you rank higher than are forums, unrelated blog posts or random trash. I've spoken to some noobs on facebook and I can probably guess this is one of the reasons why there are so many good reviews for bad services.
    Obviously take all of this with a grain of salt, I havent seen results from these services, plenty of people have. I would be happy to provide mods with evidence of the ones I still have (Some of these services I've ordered a long time ago, some of the services are not even alive so I posted the most recent service that the same provider has). This is my personal list, be sure to post yours down below.
    Services i would recommend
    Matt Diggitiy's Service
    Noman Aqil's service
    Grindtime io - daniel nikolovki's service
    1.) Where do I buy links from now?
    I have moved on from being a noob in SEO, I buy links exclusively from those 3 people. I stopped trusting BHW sellers since the majority of them are pure scammers . I have only had 1 BHW seller I liked and even he wasnt 100% honest.
    2.) Advice for noobs
    Dont trust most people on forums like this or facebook, 90% of people on SEO are mostly scammers who have found ways to make easy money without actually trying.
    Ask people on FB for advice on who to buy PBNs from, I've found that 90% of people on FB are willing to help even a stranger. Dont buy from FB groups though, the people there are even worse sometimes.
    Dont cheap, ive had many times where i have skipped out on noman aqils service even after I became more knowledgable on SEO for a cheap 2$ post on BHW. They just plain out DONT work. Especially if your kw is already in the top 30
    Feel free to post all your stuff on scammers on BHW and make sure no noob falls for any of this ever again.
     
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    So the BHW SEO servicec are tested from the Admins as I know... Do you mean that we cannot trust them?
     
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    Its super easy to fool an admin, as far as I know they dont test services after they review them. So all sellers need to do is give good domains for the first 10 people and they are all good.
     
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    So why didn't you report them?
     
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    1. I didnt know you could
    2. alot of these services I dont actually have evidence any more since I told the people to remove the links and get rid of the traces
    3. Where is the report system exactly?
    4. Im quite paranoid about seo sellers adding me to a shitlist and negative SEOing me, this is quite justifyable as 1/3 of my income is from SEO. But if any mod see's this thread i will be happy to share information about the stuff I do still have evidence on.
     
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    In this game, you get what you paid for.

    Good SEO service costs a lot of money so yes, this is the only thing I agree with you, have to be careful from who you buy such service.

    This thread is based on your opinion and since there isn't any proof of what you are saying I will just say this is complete bullshit.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    I understand. Just asked :)
     
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    I wasnt talking abt that to you, it was the other guy. I understand you completely
     
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    That is comepletely fine, its your own opinion and i cant change it. You can think im a bser all you like, the fact is is that many other people have reported this too. Say all you like i've said before on this thread that its my own opinion.
    1.) You claim that good seo services cost alot
    Elite ranks pbn service costs 349 (before the discout) for 30 posts.
    Thats over 10$/post.
    Is that not "expensive"?
    Im not trying to be mean here but your point simply isnt correct. Many of these services cost quite alot and they provide the same level of garbage as the 1$ ones.
     
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    Either report them to the Approving Moderator, open a thread here or send a ticket in to support.blackhatworld.com but don't open a random thread without any proof.

    Reporting them with proof will get you somewhere, posting here will not.
     
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