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Do I Really Need To Work Hard To Make Money?

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  1. ytr191

    ytr191 Regular Member

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    I always ask myself this question when I see stock traders, and internet marketers make hundreds per day. What do they have that is better than me? Why do they seem perfect? Why is it that I must struggle like my family did to make pennies while on the flip side a small few make tons of money? All men are created equal, although they all do not feel equal!

    Feelings are the key to the situation.

    A rich person is needy, pathetic and narcissistic! While a poor person refuses to feel there needs, vows to never have a need and stomps into the ground any thoughts of narcissism.

    Although, people need money.

    The poor person doesn't feel there needs and denies that they have them, also they tell themselves they are not valuable. So why should they have a lot of money? They should work very hard for money and earn very little! They aren't valuable, they don't have needs either!

    The rich person totally owns that they are needy, and totally believes that they are valuable. So why shouldn't they have a lot of money? They clearly really need money, and they are valuable!

    This is what makes the difference between the rich and the poor.

    The hard working and the leisurely.

    One is needy and valuable, the other worthless and needless.
     
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    I dont agree the rich people are always needy, pathetic and narcissistic.

    Well I kinda thought that (not on this serious level that you mentioned) but I changed my mind,
    you can check out this thread of mine that I talk about this maybe it will give you
    some food for thought.
     
  3. Roparadise

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    You make money by working smart not working hard.
     
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    There's no such thing as rich or poor just Free and slaves with that being said

    It's what you do in your free time that will set you free—or enslave you.

     
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  5. ytr191

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    This works in a sense of the law of attraction.

    If you feel needy and valuable. You will attract the resources, money, people and things you need.

    Let me give you an example. Lets say the King of England. What makes him powerful?

    The fact that he is needy,pathetic, and valuable. He has to rely on the people of England to support him, they only support him since he is valuable!
     
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    That is your problem right there. Money don't make a person needy or pathetic. I think this point of view comes from your parents and it unconsciously try to avoid being "pathetic". Start reading books about wealth or you will stay poor forever.
     
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    E=MC² Junior Member

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    The personality traits you described either of rich or poor people are wrong.
    In order to succeed you need self control, know what you want and go for it, do not get distracted by others, and do not let negative thoughts submerge your mind, because it creates patterns of thoughts (ends up causing depression, anxiety etc)that gets you stuck in the same repetitive shitty mindset.
     
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    In My opinion, if you start poor you'll need to work hard to earn . If you start with enought money to invest you won't need to work hard, money will do the work for you.
     
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    No, you need to work smart.
     
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    I think that the logic behind that question is about the same as asking if you need to sit on a toilet to take a shit. Generally, the answer should be yes, but it doesnt have to be. Rich people make tons of money because they put themselves in the right place at the right time. Whether its through careful planning, or getting lucky. You have to be smart to make that kind of money and they were smart enough to be in that right place. I think the reason that most people fail in this industry is because they put to much faith into one thing. Where in some situations, that one thing might be amazing, in most its not.

    Instagram was a great idea. That guy put all his eggs in that one basket and it worked out for him because that idea was destined to make money. I dont think the same thing applies to SEO, IM (in general), PPC. None of that really. Which is odd to say because this entire site is dedicated to IM.

    I think the question that really needs to be asked is, "are we putting our eggs in the right basket?". I have never stuck to one idea no matter how much profit it made for me. Things change in every industry and if you want to make it, you need to be fluid with that change. Microsoft is struggling with their switch to mobile. Google isnt. It just depends on what you do. I havent made shit with PPC, adsense or any of that other stuff. I have made lots of money in Ebay and Craigslist. Just depends.

    Money is tricky. It can get you a lot, but it can also lose you a lot to. You just have to be careful.
     
  11. ytr191

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    Being rich doesn't make you needy and pathetic, because we all already are.
     
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    There's no King of England, there is a Queen.
     
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    I don't think feelings have anything to do with it. You make smart decisions at key moments. If you're not motivated to learn, you won't make money. If you try something nine times out of 10, fail those attempts and then give up, that tenth try could have been the pot of gold you missed because you gave up. Therefore motivation is the key not feelings. If you want it bad enough you will make it happen.
     
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    Years of experience and thousands of hours of learning and work, determination, no sense of self-pitty or negative communist thoughts. And that would be the tip of one big mothafucking iceberg.

    Your post reflects your distorted opinion, based probably in some kind of frustrations. You are not better than an egoistic, asshole, rich man. You are just as bad but simply in a different way. We all are. We all have defects and imperfections. Some are lazy, others are alcoholics, some steal, some rape, some worry too much, some are too kind, some are too naive. What bothers me about what you wrote though is that you judge others and i might not even mind that but you judge people you never met in your life, you generalize. And based on what? On the fact they're rich? GTFO! How do you know somebody who is making millions on stock market didn't started from being poor and didn't worked his ass off and learned hundreds or thousands of hours to get there or that he isn't a very kind person or valuable?

    Maybe if you'd pull your head out of your ass and stop pointing fingers at others and categorizing them in batches you'd actually make some progress. And maybe if you wouldn't whine about working hard you'd actually achieve something. Successful people aren't that because they sit on their ass and wait for shit to happen or whine about life being hard. Successful people are those who will push and fall and get up ad keep pushing until they get where they want with no excuses and no whining. You mind working ur ass off until you throw up from exhaustion, then please do join the rest 99.9% of the sheep and keep whining about rich people being unfair and not sweating and bleeding to put food on YOUR table.

    You want somebody to agree with what you said and enforce your fucked up beliefs? You have to say that to some other poor and highly valuable person like you, who thinks working 8h/day from Monday to Friday is hard and who hates rich people just because they're rich and show him what he knows he will never be, because he's not willing to sweat that hard. Me for one, after working 20h in a row with just smoke breaks I can go to bed smiling, satisfied that I built something. You ask how we succeed? By working 16h/day Monday to Sunday and doing the things other people find too hard. And just to totally blow your mind, some of us don't even do it just for money. At least not always. I for one could live in a forest and would likely not be unhappy. Whether i am rich or poor and whether I live in a mansion or in the forrest doesn't change who I am, just the things I do and the experiences I go through.
     
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    The problem is that you really aren't succeeding. The reason why you must work hard for pennies is because you are a bad receiver. Do these phrases sound familiar to you?

    "I am all set"
    "I am fine"
    "I can take care of it"

    The truth is you need help, but you refuse to accept that. Since you want to be better than that and achieve more. It holds you back from intimacy, people, even from money.

    The real truth is that you have a lot of needs. You just don't let yourself feel them.

    You need to feel loved
    You need to feel adored

    Although you found out early that they weren't going to get met.

    So you made a vow to not feel them anymore. To just out right deny them.

    So you aren't a very good reciever.

    You will have to work long and hard for pennies a day because of that.
     
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    Why are you on this self imposed crusade to spew negativity and sound completely ignorant at the same time? Really?! I would understand if you posed an inquiry of methods used by the forum members on what they do to achieve success... but you chose to post some generalized garbage about how you " think" social class members act based on their revenue. I have to agree with the members whom so eloquently emphasized how success is defined by your hard work. I'm sure your searching for methods to generate effortless income, you've signed up for a few sites, read a few threads, woke up on a good Tuesday, thought you'd make a million dollars, failed at making 10, then decided to start a thread to exhibit your self loathing rather than accepting that failure and searching for another way.

    The rich feel entitled because some of them decided a long time ago that feeling self pity, generalizing others and waiting for success to happen wasn't good enough.. so they got up and did something about it.

    The poor .. I can't put a generalization on that because there are people on this earth whom don't work hard to gain earthly wealth but see the bigger picture of earning a better place in the afterlife. ( of course that is only if that is your belief, it is mine but I wont generalize for others and I apologize if that offends those whom may have different beliefs).

    Stop whining and work.

    Stop posting over 500 characters in total and write an article for about $15 +.

    Stop pointing fingers and put them to work.

    At the end of the day you'll make more and I'm sure you wont whine about that.

    Wealth always starts with a penny.... take the 2 cents your being offered and start a piggy bank.
     
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    This has to be trolling. Generalizations founded upon other generalizations don't make for good logic.
     
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    From years of finding(my own studies) I group those rich into 2 categories of why they can be so rich n what their specialty. 1st type is they are born rich. They have the money to burn, meaning no matter how bad their businesses are, u can always see them close n open up anothrr biz in no time. 2nd is those hard working type. Same as the 1st, no matter how many times they failed in their biz, they are not easily defeated. They stand up n keep on going n going till others only see their successful story instead of reading back their pasts. So if u r not someone in 1st group, then the only solution for u to become rich, definitely will have to be in the 2nd group.
     
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    Op, This is your answer.. Take it or Leave it ...
     
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    Actually, all men are born equal.. its after that it gets more complicated.

    People are equal, but it doesn't mean people are all the same. Some people are logical. Others are creative. Some people have high IQ, others not. Some people have big balls (metaphorical balls), others not.

    Many of my friends struggle to make money. I've tried to get them interested in IM, but as soon as I say "domain name" or "backlink" they are like "oh wow, i'm not a geek, sorry, I don't know what that is" and that's where it stops.

    The truth is life is full of cross roads. The roads which you will take will determine what you are, its your choices in life that make you. As I said, all men are born equal, its later that it gets more complicated. I took some decisions in my life which changed me forever, I took some roads which probably only 5-10% of people in the world would take. I was also lucky to have support from my friends and family, but at the end of the day, your choices make you who you are. And if you choose to do something right, and if you choose to do what it takes to become successful, then go down that road without looking back or hesitating for a second.

    If you just sit at the crossroads, trying to decide which road to take, you will not make any progress. If you decide to take one road, and then think "shit, actually not a good idea", then you walk back up the road to the original crossroad, you're back at the starting point, you won't make any progress... set yourself goals.. pick a road.. go all the way and don't stop till you reach your dreams. (ok sorry for the cheesy ending..)
     
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