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Do I have a prayer or should I pass trying to rank against these 10 sites on the 1st page?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by radiant13, Jan 16, 2013.

  1. radiant13

    radiant13 Power Member

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    I'm trying to learn how to determine if a kw is worth going after by evaluating the existing first page results. I think I have a shot at getting to no.3 but not sure about outranking no.2 the amazon product page.
    No.1 has a pretty high PR of 5 so might be very difficult to outrank. I don't understand how no.9 has the highest PR of 6 with high number of LD and still rank so far down.
    Am I looking at this correctly?

    It's a 4 word keyword with 2,400 local searches, approx CPC $3.60.

    The sites on the first page are:

    1. PR5 LD36 Competing product website
    2. PR4 81M Amazon product page for above product
    3. PR2 41 Competing product
    4. PR2 0 Competing product
    5. PR0 9 Competing product
    6. PR1 0 ""
    7. PR0 3 ""
    8. PR1 0 ""
    9. PR6 2375 ""
    10. PR0 88K Costco product page of no.1 product above

    PR and LD info from SEOquake.
     
  2. living2xl

    living2xl Senior Member

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    What is the word, can you send us a link to the earch results?
     
  3. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    Are those the domain PR or actual ranking URL PR of the sites in question.
    I find it easy to pi$$ all over Amazon for instance with decent content and linking.
    IF the rewards for getting top 3 are worth the cost and time...well that's your answer I suppose.

    PS - dont give the word away here. not if you value your niche

    Scritty
     
  4. ksmiley

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    i hope your not thinking if you get ranked to that spot that you will get $3.60 from cpc? let alone get any traffic
     
  5. radiant13

    radiant13 Power Member

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    They are the actual ranking urls PR, most of them the homepage which would be the actual PR of the domain, the other 2 are product pages in amazon and costco. I think I should focus on the whether I can knock out the top dog. No.1 is the most popular product in the niche and no.9 is the second most popular and mine is third most popular, as measured by number of sales. No.1 has a PR of 5 so the question I should be asking is what's it going to take to outrank it?
    Can you please give me an idea of the linking scheme required to outrank amazon? I'm a newb UDemon owner so I'll be very grateful to get some lessons from a UD master.:rock:

    The thought to identify the niche did cross my mind for about 2 seconds but I'm not that much of a newb.
     
  6. radiant13

    radiant13 Power Member

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    Nope, that number just indicated the degree of the commercial landscape. Traffic is from the 2400 local searches.
     
  7. radiant13

    radiant13 Power Member

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    The word is no.
     
  8. Mr Paul

    Mr Paul Junior Member

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    1. You need a prayer, 2. You need to outranked this guys, you're better than them!