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Do-follow blog backlinks hurt your site in Penguin 2.1?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by galaxyduo, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. galaxyduo

    galaxyduo Newbie

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    So I've been reading that Penguin 2.1 targets Do-Follow blog links? If this is true, doesn't this make all the
    Blog packages in "SEO- Link Building" section of Blackhatworld harmful to your site?
     
  2. thedorf

    thedorf Senior Member

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    Friendly bump for the OP, inquiring minds want to know.
     
  3. MarcoE

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    If you mean blog-comments then I'm afraid they are hurting, after extensive testing on several different sites I've seen some ranking drops even when such backlinks are tier 2; HOWEVER when those backlinks are tier 3-4 they seem to be helping the rankings with a small boost.

    As an edit I'd like to point out that the sites which had those backlinks pointing to the main site or even as tier 2 BEFORE the penguin update hit, then such sites (or at least the majority) sunk like the titanic.

    My advise would be to avoid them unless you know what you are doing and how to filter them properly, and if you already have them then start disavowing boys and girls.
     
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  4. travanx

    travanx Regular Member

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    Now why would a real blog comment link do harm to a site?
     
  5. ButcherBoy

    ButcherBoy Regular Member

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    If you talk about spam links and unrelated comments, it may hurts, but in fact Google will always loves links, all ranking is based on that. It's up to you to use smart link building.
     
  6. Scritty

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    Nope - too many will. Private ones will - but a general mix won't.

    If you read a penalty notice it's quite specific what they arew after.
    Always claims they are after link buyers, overuse of link exchanges and other ways people might use to "gain Page rank"
    Never seen a penalty notice that even mentioned the sites position in SERP's - just Page rank
    So get d0-f0ll0w in a mix with the rest.

    A good idea is not to even think about Pr any more - just get good links without without it. It's been almost a year since Google even updated it. It's dying a death if not dead already.

    Scritty
     
  7. john1444

    john1444 Elite Member

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    If you are talking about comment then YES.

    For the fact that you can't control the outbound link makes it dangerous.
     
  8. RedMango

    RedMango Power Member

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    Prove your extensive testing.
     
  9. MarcoE

    MarcoE Newbie

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    From my sites + clients:

    The sites (10+ sites) that had web2.0 networks and scrapebox comments (bought lists from loopline) pointing to such networks suffered a big hit (40 spots even).

    Sites that had some Scrapebox pointing directly to the main site (3 sites) just died.

    Sites that had SENukeX (15+ sites) to them had no major impact, 4-5 spots dropped and they were recovered with a couple of campaigns. - however the sites that had Scrapebox to a lower tier of SENukeX (tier 3 and so on) suffered no damage.

    Sites that had a proper private blog network (12 sites) (bought authority domains with the purpose of linking to the main site) had no change at all.

    I won't give you my sites and such for you to look at, however that's what I've found so far.

    If you want more specific answers then ask me by pm or here I'll try to keep watching this thread.
     
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  10. galaxyduo

    galaxyduo Newbie

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    Actually, this Glen Gabe person claims that Do-Follow blogs can hurt your site in Penguin 2.1 and based on his wording, it includes links from the Blog article itself (my account is new so I can't post the link -you can Google "Penguin 2.1 Do Follow" to find his article)

    Here is the relevant quote from Glen Gabe's article:

     
  11. Laubster

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    I'm using manual, high pr, ******** comments to my money sites and they're moving higher in the rankings. Mass comments or tiered link building using comments may get you in trouble though. Google said they would eventually go further upstream to look at what sites are linking to your T1 sites, so it would make sense. With that said, blog comments should not be a primary weapon in your arsenal for rankings. I just use them to diversify my anchors since they get picked up and indexed so fast (the high PR ones that is).
     
  12. thedorf

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    Screw a bunch of blog links, gotta be a better way to do this, btw, I recently found a site ranking for a number #1 & #2 term that has some 39,000 backlinks, of which approximately 37,000 were d o - f o l l o w, on top of that they were being used as advertising for an SEO firm, on the home page, in front of Google and the whole world, and their keywords were plane as day in front of everything else. Ahrefs verified this.

    Some people got more balls than I got!
     
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  13. zoomsixx

    zoomsixx Senior Member Premium Member

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    If you can get comment backlinks that are ******** with low outbound links on the page, high PA and DA then I think they still work great. Just mix up the anchor and make sure you have some random anchor thrown in.
     
  14. RedMango

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    Thanks for that. I've found that Senuke is crap now. The site lists are terrible, links get deleted almost instantly, it's so difficult to add your own lists and they just fail anyway even if they do eventually load.

    Blog comments, maybe that points to some I've bought in the past from here. I've had some drops, not all across all sites, but some. I thought originally it was wiki blasts (wikibomber) but it might just be blog comments. Some link detective type tool said that some of my high PR blog comments were dangerous...but to me they look legit on great sites...which is why I asked you to prove what you've found, always keen to learn from others.

    I don't need any specifics, just some additional info that you've given, which is great. Compared to other replies I've had on this forum today, it's been an eye-opener. Others on here today have been weird so I've reacted LOL.
     
  15. tojamie

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    Never trust Commenting links.