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Do EMD sites reak of poor quality?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Nauthiz666, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. Nauthiz666

    Nauthiz666 Senior Member

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    I've been thinking about making some authority sites, and it seems like to me most keyword domain sites don't rank these days, and seem cheap. I feel like it would be better to have a branded name for a website, thoughts?
     
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    I have a few and they definitely are helping me in the SERPs. However, my campaigns are extensive and weren't touched by any of the google updates unless it was in a positive way.
     
  3. Nauthiz666

    Nauthiz666 Senior Member

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    emds? Do they compete with authority sites?
     
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    SmileAtmyWins BANNED BANNED

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    They become authority sites..
     
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    I desegree, keyword domain sites rank as good as always. The EMD in itself is not to your disadvantage.
     
  7. Nauthiz666

    Nauthiz666 Senior Member

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    Would you guys get EMD if you only have the less common extensions available, like .info etc?
     
  8. Duffers5000

    Duffers5000 Elite Member

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    If a good keyword match .com is available then go for that. I am finding it much easier to rank emds, however with my authority sites I am not scared to take a long term view so I would be happy to try and get a brandable name rather than www.nearly-close-to-what-i-wanted.com. In the ideal world I would still prefer one of my keywords in the title though.
     
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    Nauthiz666,

    EMD's can be very powerful however you have to think about the benefits of using one as opposed to creating brand awareness. Using a keyword in the domain definitely gives some more push toward helping a site rank better however this is just one in a long list of factors that improve SEO.

    If you are considering whether or not to use an EMD, I would weigh the pros and cons of using a keyword over a brand name. For instance some company's brand names are so well known and crucial for brand awareness that it would not be wise to create a site without using it. For instance if Ford motor company decided to use buycheapcar.com instead of their name sake, this would be a horrible decision.

    EMD's (especially .com TLD's) have been shown to be much more potent than a lot of other ranking factors. That being said, its not like a site could not still out-rank an EMD because it had much better content and a strong backlink profile.

    As far as the sites you have seen with less than interesting content using EMD's, using an exact match domain is a popular tactic and many short lived spammy websites use them to generate traffic quickly. Users can typically tell as soon as they arrive on the first page if a site will be beneficial for them to stick around on. If you decide to use an EMD, it will help you as far as SEO; just be sure you are offering quality content and you won't have a problem.

    Check out this post from SEOMoz highlighting some dramatic findings about EMD's,

    http://www.seomoz.org/blog/exact-match-domains-are-far-too-powerful-is-their-time-limited

    Here is an interesting article about how EMD's have been penalized by the Penguin update,

    http://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/penguin-exact-match.html
     
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    Ormond321 Newbie

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    I'm just a noob, but can't wait to actually be able to understand what you guys are talking about.
     
  11. jennym

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    What if there isn't a .com/.org/.net available for your keyword? Are there any other tld's you would use like .co or .us??? Or would you rather just put a word on the end or front and get one of the preferred tld's?

    Or find an emd with lower searches and target your preferred keyword on a subpage?

    I have some good keywords with decent searches and cpc and the top 10 competition is easy, but can't find emd's for them using .com/.org/.net. I have found emd's for related keywords with lower search volume though <1000. I'm just so confused. lol

    Jenny
     
  12. TheNetworkBlast

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    please don't take offense to this, but if you optimize your website properly, the unavailable emd shouldn't stop you from trying to rank.

     
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  13. Sgt Kraut

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    The reason why everybody says "only go for EMDs" is because they are easier to rank. If you know what you're doing or want a professional to do your SEO, then you can go for another TLD, but always check the competition carefully. No EMD available often means medium/hard competition.
     
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  14. jennym

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    Thanks guys. It's just I was researching too many keywords at one time and they were all getting confusing. I decided to slow it down and just do one at a time. I think I was just getting information overload. haha

    I've found a few emd with tld's for now, and the one's I couldn't find tld's I'll figure out what I'm going to do with them later. Thanks

    Jenny
     
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    IF you don't find an EMD, go for an EMD with a hyphen. It will work the same. The Power of these EMD's can be immense. I still know people who are making big out of it.

    Better go for www.EMDx.com than a www.EMD.us domain.
     
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    interesting i got 2 domains (clones same keywords etc)at the same time, one was emd one not, the emd ive done no seo and has become pr2 after 2 months with zero sales , and the other domain not emd selling same product sent 2000 blog backlinks from fiverr is making £15-30 per day in sales pr0 ,, i think pr counts for nothing,maybe only on flippa
     
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    EMD or non EMD, it's pretty much the same if your SEO methods suck. Just make a test - try both domains, EMD and non EMD and see which one performs better. Then use the experience from this test and build more sites. :)