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Do article encoders work? (unique article makers)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by hist0ry, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. hist0ry

    hist0ry Regular Member

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    Someone posted a unique article maker here before and ive seen them elsewhere before as well where it basically encodes the article so it looks 100% the same but appears unique to spiders etc. I tried them on copyscape etc and they are def unique but are google on the ball with this? I mean is it safe to make a niche site using say PLR articles via these encoders?

    Whats the experience you guys have had? and what knowledge do use have on this in regards to the almighty G.

    thanks
     
  2. seeplusplus

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    Someone earlier said these are unsafe to use on adSense sites, and was looking if anyone had an opinion on this.
     
  3. GrizzlyAdams

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    If the software is replacing letters with different characters then it is useless because google wont be able to read the words and find the relevency IMO.
     
  4. hist0ry

    hist0ry Regular Member

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    I wont be using adsense on this site. It will be a cpa offer and some kind of inline add.

    Essentially its mainly driven via articles however also has some youtube posts etc.

    Im more concerned about if it does start to rank is there a good chance in 4months or so its going to just get deindexed or severely punished.
     
  5. royalmice

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    I agree with you on this.

    If the article is so encoded the search engine will not be able to index it, and it would not add any value to your website, so you might as well not have the article in the first place
     
  6. hist0ry

    hist0ry Regular Member

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    apparently it leaves keywords intact and encodes the junk text. Apparently articles do get indexed with it also. Im mainly concerned about it being detected. Ill post results once this new niche site gets indexed properly and by the way
    I currently have 3x articles indexed and the exerts it shows actually are proper text not encoded stuff so theyre appaering in serps right + they pass copyscape etc but are just copy and paste PLR
     
  7. phpbuilt

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    If Google is showing the excerpts with the real words then Google knows exactly what the words are, right? And if it does, it knows it is duplicate.

    Who cares what copyscape thinks, do you think Google goes to copyscape to decide whether text is unique or not?
     
  8. LeadsProvider

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    Do you mean copyscape is just a useless tool in terms of SEO?
     
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    Xyz01 Regular Member Premium Member

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    You mean spinners? Google has been looking up synonyms for a while, so you need to spin it really well. :)
     
  10. phpbuilt

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    Copyscape is there to tell you if content is duplicate or not. hist0ry just said that he has scrambled text on his page and they got indexed in Google, and the excerpts in Google are showing real text, not garbled, as if Google took the garbled text and translated it into real words.

    If that is true, then Google knows exactly what the words are. If Google knows exactly what the words are ... then it would know if it is duplicate or not, right?
     
  11. Mosquera

    Mosquera Newbie

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    I have tested it a bit, and it seems that in some cases Google drops importance for the keywords, and even when you can find the site with those modified words, you can't find it by the important keywords in game.

    Note this does not happen with all the websites using this, though.

    However, there are at least 8.6 millions of webs using this trick indexed by Google. So unless there is another use, I wouldn't recommend it for long-run. It shouldn't take long until they realize this (unless they did, and what I mentioned before is a consequence of this).
     
  12. bewithme465

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    Don't waste your time on software's they doesn't knew the meaning at all, Software never make UNIQUE good looking ARTICLES,
    Software they change the relevant meaning or exact but the total meaning of the content varies and it will look meaningful content, so that type of content is kills everything.
    So hire some good writers it fetches u good results than duplicates or non meaning ful content
     
  13. hist0ry

    hist0ry Regular Member

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    Well theres a good chance my SEO plugin platinum seo put the first 50 words or whatever as the description meta and google is simply reading that and thats what im seeing.
    thanks
     
  14. LeadsProvider

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    A website ranked #2 with this keyword "buying low selling long" with enchanted articles. Check it out. These articles are indexed and can rank as well. Just saying. :)

    EDIT: And this keyword: "buy cheap books tips" enchanted article ranked #6 - the one with title 4 tips to buy cheap books. Check it. And #7 for "buying cheap books tips".
     
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    There has to be some downside.....otherwise everybody would be using these on there sites instead of spinning text.
     
  16. Mosquera

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    I tried some and saw what I mentioned before (problems ranking with keywords). But I also saw others that didn't have problems at all ranking with the keywords like you say (and even might have outranked the original), so I can't tell there's a certain downside to it.

    You were right about those KWs.

    The downside is not knowing what could happen for using this -- however, being BH, you can never know for sure what will/can happen. Even less considering it's Google.
     
  17. LeadsProvider

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    That's where being a risk taker comes in. :) Note that most successful people are risk takers.

     
  18. klawre1221

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    You know google is working on it and in a few months it will bring its wrath down on sites doing it.
     
  19. Nuker

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    is there any script which make enchanted articles ?
     
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    Yes, but the last person who offered this on BHW limited it to only 200 subscribers. Still a nice earner at 200 x $37 a month!! basically the script just scrambles the 'stop words'.

    I didnt sign up because while the articles pass copyscape and the articles will get indexed by Google, they appear as duplicate content as Google ignores stop words anyway and considering Google will index the article with original text and not scrambled then basically Google see's it as duplicate content which someone has scramble in an attempt to fool them!!

    Now, why are some people ranking duplicate content? well dup content can rank above the original if you blast it with enough backlinks. I tested this myself and copied an article on a website competing for a particular keyword to a squidoo lens and i was able to blast the squidoo lens and rank it above the original.

    Long term, i see this not worth the risk as one day you are making $200 a day and next day you wake up with all your sites hit with a Panda update and income gone to zero and have to start from scratch!
     
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