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DMCA copyright complaint on high-income blog

Discussion in 'Web Hosting' started by kupo, Apr 2, 2011.

  1. kupo

    kupo Junior Member

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    Hi guys, long story short. I have one "grayhat" site (spun content) that is getting really good rankings and traffic in Google, as well as income. But it is currently dealing with massive DMCA copyright complaints, specifically spun articles (but they are > 50% unique and ALL pass Copyscape). My current US-based webhost has told me to take those particular pages down (or they'll cancel my hosting), which I did for now (I have locally saved versions on my hard drive), but those articles constitute a significant portion of my daily traffic and income.

    Currently I am in the process of moving to a bullet-proof webhost located in Russia that will disregard all DMCA and copyright complaints. After I'm done re-uploading everything, the high-traffic pages will go back up, and all DMCA complaints will no longer negatively affect my income.

    But here's my question: Do I need to transfer to a bullet-proof domain registrar too? Or do I only need a bullet-proof webhost? I am new to all this bullet-proof stuff. I currently have a US-based domain registrar for the domain. If the original author can't take my website down by contacting my Russian webhost, will he be able to take my website down by contacting my domain registrar? Any helpful advice appreciated.

    P.S. The original author has already issued a DMCA complaint to Google, but he published a blog post on his blog saying that Google replied to their complaint and said they couldn't do anything because my articles all have unique content (I spun the articles to over 50% unique content each so Google is letting me keep them :D but my current US webhost still wants them taken down)
     
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  2. JohnnyRabbit

    JohnnyRabbit Supreme Member

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    So it's not movies?
     
  3. kupo

    kupo Junior Member

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    Absolutely not movies or music. Only articles (spun).

    Any advice from people who have experience with these kinds of situations would be much appreciated. I only need to worry about the domain registrar now, if the original author can report me to my domain registrar. Because he has stated on his blog that he will do anything to bring me down :(

    I don't think my webhost should want me to take down these articles anyway, they all pass Copyscape with over 50% unique content.

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    Sorry new to these forums (although I made this account in 2008), this thread should go in the Domains subforum lol
     
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  4. sagarbest

    sagarbest Senior Member

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    I guess you should also move to some offshore registrar , even I am looking forward to get some info on this.
     
  5. ShiftySituation

    ShiftySituation Power Member

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    re-write the articles in your own words.. or pay someone else to do it for you. No point in removing the page if it is just some content that needs to be changed.
     
  6. kupo

    kupo Junior Member

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    I already spent 8 months manually re-writing a ton of his articles "in my own words". Outsourcing it results in lower quality polishing, as well as readability for cheaper sources. :(

    the pages
     
  7. kupo

    kupo Junior Member

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    I've never ran an autoblog before, but from what I've garnered through research, I am also looking to get an offshore registrar for autoblogs so that autoblogs can become truly "auto"-blogs in that you don't have to check your e-mail for DMCA complaints all the time, as many autobloggers are getting slapped with DMCA complaints.
     
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    anhbloginc Regular Member

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    Why you don't using protect privacy service to protect your domain register information ?
     
  9. bilalownsu

    bilalownsu Registered Member

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    that wont stop them from complaining to the registrar.
     
  10. Autumn

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    It depends entirely on your registrar. Some registrars (like Godaddy) will probably take a similar stance to your host and tell you take your stuff down or face the consequences. Other registrars will follow Google's stance, that the content isn't DMCA-able because it's technically unique, even though it might have some similarities to the complainant's content. I would tend to agree that if it went to court, they would have a hard time proving copyright infringement if the stuff is sufficiently spun... But who wants to go to trial about some shitty spun content.

    If you're really worried about it then transfer the registration too, just to be safe, especially since you seem to have put yourself in the (somewhat unwise) position of being dependent on one batch of stuff for a large part of your income.

    And learn your lessons for next time! (ie. don't put your eggs in one basket and spread out your content sources)
     
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  11. killer2021

    killer2021 Regular Member

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    move offshore otherwise this is what you'll get:

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  12. kupo

    kupo Junior Member

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    1) Appreciate all the helpful advice everyone :) What do you guys think of katzglobal (dot) com for the offshore registrar? I ran some searches and BHW members are recommending it.

    2) Also, my domain is a .com so if I transfer it to an offshore registrar (offshore hosting too), will it still be able to be taken down by the feds if the original author goes to such extents? I know we're talking extreme cases here, but I'm just curious. FYI, my website only contains white-hat family-friendly content which links to legit white-hat affiliate products etc (no illegal/black-hat shit like warez or pharmacy or anything).
     
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  13. Autumn

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    The feds are going to get involved in a dubious copyright infringement case about scraped blog content lol. If it was pharm / terrorism / KP then yes. The only thing the copyright holder could do would be to complain direct to ICANN but they're not going to give a shit either.
     
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  14. kupo

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    Lol just making sure. It's cool that ICANN won't care. I'm just so ticked off by my current webhost.

    If anyone has used "anonymous domain registrars" or "bullet-proof domain registrars" or "offshore domain registrars" before, I have a question:

    If I transfer my domain to one of these services (such as katzglobal dot com), and someone looks up my whois info, what will it show? Will it show katzglobal dot com as the domain registrar?

    I know that with Namecheap and Godaddy if you look up someone's whois info and they have domain privacy/whois guard enabled, it will still tell you the name of their domain registrar (and most of the time, their abuse/support email address), which you can then use to file a DMCA complaint against.
     
  15. zoomsixx

    zoomsixx Senior Member Premium Member

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    It seems to me that the more you pay for hosting the less they care, that could just be my imagination though.
     
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    youssef93 Senior Member

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    Hey there,

    I've been doing DMCA and counter DMCAs for clients for over a year now. You do have a few options:

    - You can send your host a counter-claim which they cannot do shit about. They will restore your content and reactivate your account if it's suspended. This are REQUIRED by law to do this in 14 business days UNLESS the other party starts a lawsuit. (Title II "OCILLA").

    - With regards to GoDaddy or the actual domain registrar doing something, from experience this is hugely unlikely. DMCA does not cover domain registrars since they do not host the material. Procedures to take a domain from you are much much more complicated and involves ICANN disputes that are costly and are not guaranteed to be effective.

    - Don't ever bother with offshore domain registrars if you're just battling against another webmaster like yourself. If it's a billion dollar company or firm with an army of lawyers then you'd want to surrender peacefully lol.

    We do offer services to take down content and in turn fight bogus DMCA notices. If you do have proof that Google rejected the claim and do not wish to battle the other webmaster yourself, PM me and we can do it for you.

    Hope this helps.
     
  17. eskimo

    eskimo Regular Member

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    Did they give you time period in which to remove the articles?
    If I was you I would remove them, wait a month and put them back up
    All they can do then is send you another letter.
    Rinse and repeat
     
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    DMCA on articles? This will be the first I have heard of this.. What host you using?
     
  19. ShiftySituation

    ShiftySituation Power Member

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    You have an auto blog which automatically spins content and you are complaining about quality being low when you outsource? wow...
     
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    But if he does that, he loses any kind of ranking hes built up in Google for those articles.

    I'd just move to an off shore host, throw up some whois on your domain, and call it good.