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[Discussion] The safety of Tiered Link Building

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Shilas, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. Shilas

    Shilas Registered Member

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    Hi BHW!

    I don't think we have to discuss if tiered link building works, or about how effective it is. Of course if it works, and of course it's effective... BUT...

    How "safe" is it really?

    In the meaning of "safe", I'm thinking about using it for clients, with a BIG established organization with a BIG website and brand.

    On smaller sites, it's easier to run the risk about getting penalized/banned. But with the kind of websites as i mention above, in most cases it
    wouldn't be worth the risk - if there is a risk?

    I know some of you got BIG clients.

    What is your experience and opinion about it?
    If YES, what do you do to make it even more safe?


    IMO, I'm thinking that you can make a 99 % safe strategy, as long as your budget is big on money and time, and you're doing it all manually.
     
  2. mseostrategy

    mseostrategy BANNED BANNED

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    10% KW Privite Network Blog post
    40% organic KW Do-follow blog commenting with OBL less 50
    10% organic Manually Web 2.0 posting with PR4 to PR9 and then point to the manually blog commenting.

    These all the strategy are safe from Panda and Penguin.
     
  3. innozemec

    innozemec Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    For anything there's a "safe" method and "bad" method.. If You plan your strategy fine enough, be smart and don't do stupid things you will be safe..
     
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  4. zee007

    zee007 Senior Member

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    Generally speaking, the larger the brand/site, the more beating the site can take. If its a newer site, I would worry a LOT more. Think about it. If you are a huge brand (say Sony), its only natural to have a few low quality links point to your site. On the other hand, if you're joeshmoe.com, its less likely you have any natural loq quality links pointing to your site and its probably because of aggressive SEO.

    Check out the backlink profile for any large brand and you will see tons of low quality links pointing to them.

    WEB 2.0's are safe as long as you create them properly and have high quality, original content posted regularly. Then blast those with some low quality links :)
     
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  5. Shilas

    Shilas Registered Member

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    Yes I agree. But if a manual quality rater spots some clearly "over" SEO optimization, I think they might ignore the fact that it's a large brand/site.

    But if we are just talking clear algorithm, it makes total sense, and i totally agree.

    Exactly. ;)
     
  6. zee007

    zee007 Senior Member

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    Yup, if a manual review takes place, we're pretty screwed :) no way to avoid that unless you do 100% white hat (guest posts and relevant directories and blog comments).

    Our "techniques" always carry some amount of risk. Its balancing risk with reward that's the challenging part.
     
  7. Shilas

    Shilas Registered Member

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    But again, if you REALLY make it look 100 % non SEO. Then... ;)
    Unless they have some tools to find link pyramids, or eventually invent one.
     
  8. clickwhale

    clickwhale Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Umm, they already do, it's called the google bot...
     
  9. Shilas

    Shilas Registered Member

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    But the question is, how effective is it?
     
  10. Digicept

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    Like every other "working" seo algorithm, the best plan is to not have all your eggs in the one basket. Yes incorporate tiered linking, even bring in blog networks - point them at your tier 1's, but you need to implement good diversity, just like your anchor text.

    Tiers/Social signals/Blog Networks/PR/Comments etc, they all have their place in a well planned SEO strategy, just keep it planned properly, and avoid too much interlinking to avoid leaving bad boy footprints.
     
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