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[Discuss] How to rank 18 MNS with 600$

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by horang007, Feb 25, 2012.

  1. horang007

    horang007 Junior Member

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    Hello friends, i am back to forum after a long time. Back in December i purchased 18 EMD. I made MNS around the main keywords with 2 articles on each of these sites. Only Linking done was a wiki Blast to each, leaving behind 150+ links ( I doubt on quality as most links are not indexed yet). All sites are indexed and none of them are in top 1000 for their main keyword. I have scrapebox, AMR, and TBS. I have managed to rank few of my earlier projects just with these tools but those days are gone when these were enough.

    Some Ideas on my mind

    1. Get ALN blasts for Few of these sites

    2. Make 3 tire link pyramids ( Tyre 1 - wiki posts Tyre 2 - web 2.0 Tyre 3 - Scrapebox AA links )

    3. HIGH PR edu blogs + Edu comments

    4. Plain old strategy - ( 20 AMR blasts to each site followed by scrapebox AA blasts)

    I have 600$ to spend. What would be the best option to go for ? Software or a service ? I am sure some of the SEO service providers will find a deal in this post, feel free to pm.
     
  2. backontrack

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    Check out the services thread,write out a plan or "blueprint", check out some fiverr gigs but the best services are here at the forums.
     
  3. adward

    adward Power Member

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    Let me show you the number:

    1. ALN Blast for all: 18 sites = 18 Blast = 18 X $40 = $720.

    2. 3 tire pyramids: Better to place separate order on fiverr. I just simply assume:
    $5 per blast : 3 tier - $15 X 18 sites = $270

    3. High PR comments: Quite expensive. Also suggest to search for a cheap fiverr. You'll have +25 PR3 comments for $5. I think that's enough.
    so $5 x 18 sites = $90

    4. AMR Blast ? You don't have enough money.

    I think your budget is quite tight. :)
     
  4. raven123

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    I would change the tiers if I were you

    T1 -> Web 2.0
    T2 -> Wiki
    T3 -> SB

    Anyway, why are you looking to rank all 18? start with nine, then from their profits rank the other. Simple as that. 18 is hard to manage anyway, you will make mistakes and that is not good at all

    Good luck!
     
  5. pumama

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    The plan above is too expensive. Dont use it. Here is my plan for ranking MNS:
    1. Buy 2 PR4 domains. around $40 for one pr 4 domain. you can find at digitalpoint. Total $80
    2. Add these domains to your FREE ALN account. You will be able to submit 6 articles per day. Each article links to 3 site so you can build one link/site/day.
    3. Start submitting article. Rinse and Repeat for 30-45 days. If you target low competition keywords, I ensure you will get the #1 ranking.
    Spending only $80 for ALN is better than $720 hehe. You just have to submit article manually. If you are lazy, outsource to someone. But still cheaper than $720
     
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  6. adward

    adward Power Member

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    That sounds good for a small budget. Good luck, mate.
     
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  7. horang007

    horang007 Junior Member

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    OMG those figures crushed my moral! Yes you are right this looks expensive. But i was under an impression that any one of the four will be enough to get the sites ranked. what do you say ?

     
  8. horang007

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    UPDATE:

    I just found a fiverr gig which does 7 articles for 5$. I am highly dubious about the quality.

    Also i am looking for some web 2.0 and wiki gigs

    If you guys know some good related gigs please let me know
     
  9. Winchester

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    My word to the wise is when it comes to SEO don't go with Fiverr gigs - you get what you pay for. You are betting using all your budget on services here on BHW than on Fiverr - while you would get more the quality here would be ten times that easily
     
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  10. adward

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    I highly doubt about that. You got SB and AMR and still nowhere to be in top 1000. Somethings wrong in the keywords you're targeting or your on-page.

    Anyway, I sent you a good fiverr on Wiki and high PR comment. That's the cheapest and high quality one which I can find till now. :)

    Good luck, mate.
     
  11. phpbuilt

    phpbuilt Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    If you bought the right EMD's, they should be ranking top 150 just by having content on them (if you did correct keyword research).

    Hitting a new micro niche site with scrapebox is harmful. Low quality AMR blasts on a new MNS isn't much better. I'd bet anything they all have penalties on them.

    With a new MNS, less is more. Go for quality links ... make 5 to 10 web2.0s that you will update once a week. Blast the web2.0s instead of blasting your MNS.

    Also update your MNS regularly. One post every other week minimum.
     
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  12. pumama

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    Yes :D. Even if we do not want to do manually, we can hire a VA for about $250 per month and he will do all the works
     
  13. phpbuilt

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    Going to make another post here. I'm seeing stuff in this thread that is not right.

    $600 to market 18 EMDs is NOT BAD AT ALL. That's $33 per website. That's about right.

    First of all, I hate to say that you probably screwed yourself on the 18 sites (to do this with budget pricing). You probably gave yourself choppy link velocity. If you get 10k AMR and scrapebox blast out of the blue, your site is now a scrapebox junkie. It needs to continually receive that -- otherwise Google goes "WTF last week you had 10k links, now you have none? You generated those links yourself didn't you? BZZZZT -- you're now sandboxed ... come back in six months and maybe I'll check your site out again." Now you're penalized, and while you can certainly get yourself out of penalty .... there's no guarantee you can do that on a budget.

    Everyone has their techniques, but I'm going to recommend this for new EMDs ...

    Brand new EMD MNS doesn't get direct scrapebox, xrumer or AMR.

    Give your site 5 to 10 web2.0s. These will be web2.0s that will be continually updated -- so don't throw away the logins. Blast the 5 to 10 web2.0s with whichever you prefer, 5k scrapebox, 5k xrumer or one AMR submission of around 1000 with maybe 350 successful. That's one blast covering all 5 to 10 sites (not 5 to 10 extra blasts).

    Next, I stick 1 linkpushing.net push on the site. When you're buying in bulk, they cost $5, which is like nothing.

    Now if you do your keyword research properly (find a good EMD with low competition and 2k to 5k exact searches per month in Google), and you do the above (5 to 10 web2.0s with a 5k scrapebox blast spread over them), and 1 link pushing ...

    You should be top 15, and you're most likely top 10 from just that. Assuming that you make your 5 to 10 web2.0s yourself ... you've spent $5 on a blast to web2.0s and $5 on a linkpushing.net.

    That's $10. 18 sites that would be $180.

    Next, repeat the above process every 2 weeks. Every two weeks ...

    - make 1 new article on the MNS.
    - autospin some crappy article and post it to your 5 to 10 web2.0s, promoting your new article on your MNS
    - buy another $5 blast to the new articles on your web2.0s.
    - buy one more linkpushing.net blast to your site (if buying in bulk, $5).

    That's $10 per month per site. $600 will last you 3 1/2 months.

    Within 3 1/2 months ... if you picked your keyword properly, you will be in the top 7, and have some #1s.

    It is very important not to manhandle your MNS sites into ranking. Don't flood them with crappy links. Sure they might rank, but you're making it way harder for yourselves than you need to.

    Your sites need time. Small steady links over time.

    This method is probably about the most profitable you could take when comparing your investment vs your return. But now with your 18 MNS that are probably penalized, you have to dig ourself out of the whole before you can rank them well on a budget, and who knows how deep they are.

    Edit: Done the way I just explained, your site will never have a Google dance. You will only ever see steady increases.
     
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  14. Anton91

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    If the gig on fiverr does 7 articles the chances are they are just using that stop words coding method that i believe seo20 released here.

    Your articles will not be unique but they will pass copyspace and show as unique.

    Just a heads up!
     
  15. horang007

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    @phpbuilt : Sir thank you so much for such a detailed guide, i have already shortlisted this technique after going through your post.

    There is a slight correction, The sites are not touched WRT link building. I own AMR and SB. But i have not blasted any of the 18 domains we are talking about.



     
  16. horang007

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    Can you elaborate seo20's release?
     
  17. nik-0

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    I would do it like this:

    - each site 50 posts from High PR society $3.75
    - each site $5 Fiverr gig for 50 web2.0's
    - each site 500 social bookmarks $5,- Fiverr gig
    - sign up with UAW or SubmitYourArticle and give each site a blast
    - buy 2000 wiki article posts for $5 at Fiverr and use them to blast your web2.0's and high PR society posts.

    Total costs $18.75 * 18 = $337,50 + $69,-/monthly sub. = $406,50

    Well within budget and 100% sure you will rank these EMD's, considering you did well enough research. You could even buy Scrapebox with the money left to blast the tier1+ tier2 wiki links. Hell you could even buy BookmarkDemon to do the social bookmarking yourself, I beleive it costs around $150 but 18 * $5 = $90 already and if you own it you can bookmark all the other links in tier1 as well.
     
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  18. eLeSlash

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    hey, try my social bookmarking service. i do 200+ social bookmarks (different ips) for 5$ and i will report within 12h.
     
  19. SuperNoobInc

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    Another amazing post, wow :)

    Can you please explain how these 18 MNS should be hosted? Should they be hosted under same IP etc.? Should we get a reseller account for private nameservers and such? Thanks
     
  20. kirahster

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    Rent a VPS with tons for software installed. You can get ones with SEnuke, SB, Sick, Xrumer, etc. for under $80/mth. You can use this to build some tier one links. I also like Uberblogcreator for tier 1 web 2.0s.
    Buy a good SB list (<$100) and start blasting the shit out of your tier one links.