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Discovery.Next World 2 of 6 - Future Intelligence

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by silentthunder, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. silentthunder

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    In order for this to happen there will have to be a massive breakthrough in cpu technology. As well as a increased demand for more power. Which the average consumer is not interested in anymore, APPLE is proof of this with there extremely popular devices using outdated hardware.


    After watching more,it seems like just a giant commercial for companies looking to advertise their products.

    Damn, I just need to keep my mercedes roadster,make sure its in good shop and maintain it well and Ill be getting so many hot woman in 30 years lol.
     
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    I agree this is a push or thrust by the over-abundant technocrat class ("92% of all scientists that ever lived are alive today." !!??). We're being spammed by technology. Scary shit. We're a society so immature that we war for fossil fuels to kill our atmosphere although we've had the technology to power vehicles with clean water for 70 years. Commuters and bus drivers fight and shoot each other. Yet we're in a race to be governed by robots and androids?! Who's bad acid trip is this? :tumblewee
    Even though if was difficult I decided to post this video without comment until comments were made.
     
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    The only people that were not loony in the video were the BMW and koenigsegg guys. I just seen the cleopatra part, im lmao off at it. If I am going to spend alot of money on a nice house, I want a real secretary or maid I can fool around with,not some lame avatar.
     
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    Technology will take a back seat to spirituality in the future. At some point... we'll hit a ceiling and at that point the world will turn in on itself and things will actually start to change for the better.

    IMO.
     
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    Ran out of thanks but I agree, or, as has been enthusiastically (!?) predicted in the video in question, we won't last.
     
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    Over abundant ... technocrat class...? :eek:

    Guess why 92% of all scientist ever lived are still alive today. Maybe because science has managed to emerge only in the age of capital accumulation while it was buried away for thousands of years. Maybe because people did not even have toilets inside their homes a century ago.

    Every thing we take for granted today is an ultra-luxury kings of the old would not even dream of. Did you know that the "Sun King" - Louis XIV of France - one of the most famous kings of all time had all his top teeth lost because of a toothache? Read it:

    Next time you go to the dentist, remember that it 's because of science that you don't get the kings treatment ;)
     
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    Technology and spirituality don't go against each other unless one personally chooses that. It is a matter of what you CHOOSE to do with something. You can use a sharp knife to file fish and prepare dinner or you can use it to stab your wife. You can use knowledge about atoms to create energy or to make atomic bombs. When you put together spirituality with technology you get wonderful things. But usually some prick comes along who isn't that spiritual and goes "how could i use this to kill a bunch of people and seed fear in their souls?!"

    There is a point where you stop being hooked on technology but not because is bad but because you don't need or want it. There are cases when technology is good and when it is bad but it is mostly a matter of how somebody (not necessarily you) chooses to use it. For example there's technology to grow tomatoes so production is humongous and they're all roughly the same size and completely red and good looking but taste like crap and have little nutritional value compared to 100% natural (heirloom) tomatoes. I choose not to eat tomatoes produced using that technology. It is a choice. It is always a choice.

    TV is a great invention. Watching TV all day long and becoming a brain washed coach potato is not the best use of this invention though.

    The list goes on and on...
     
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    Aren't general consumer cpu's going to max out at 3-5 teraflops unless they find a way to solve the smallest possible transitor size issue.
     
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    I'm not ignorant of all that. It's the lack of balance between technology and spirituality (not religion) that is dangerous imho. I'm far from anti technology or even anti religion. Spiritual people (like Bucky Fuller or Carl Jung for instance) will find a balance between technology and society that is harmonious. Watch the video when you get a chance. Would love to see what your always insightful mind gets from it. :)
     
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    Sorry, it appeared to me as if you were advocating neo-luddism.
     
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    Did I just hear you almost call me a Luddite!??

    [​IMG] :p

    Actually Jazz, watch that episode and you may sound like one. :cool:
     
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    History has proven that Spirituality is for the sheep's, those with low IQ, those who wait for someone the save them.

    Spirituality = Ignorance
     
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    How many teraflops would 9 billion human brains be equal to? I'm trying to find a reliable place for how much teraflops the average human brain is,but the number varies like crazy.

    Also the moore's law bs needs to stop the guy was just giving an estimate not saying exactly 18 months or that it will always double.
     
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    The power of a human brain is estimated to be at least 20 petaflops. With normal processors simulating a human brain would take a very large area. Hopefully big quantum processors will be developed and then maybe will see a human brain simulated in a computer the size of a room or in a computer the size of a pc
     
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    It seems like a huge stretch to have a 180 yottaflop desktop pc even in 2050 considering that the high end pc's today are 140gigaflops. Big time Development on quantum computers is not even going to start for a long time,since its not profitable atm. Currently the record for a quantum computer is finding out that 3x5=15. Silicon based cpu's may top out at 560-600 gigaflops,with high end gpu's topping out at around 70 teraflops single precission and around 16 teraflops double precission.

    The ipad 2 was an amazing device and its cpu only had 170 megaflops of processing power,and with the trend more towards mobile devices, it would be hard to imagine a breakthrough in cpu technology coming around. The current updates are more focused on other features such as screen resolution,size etc.

    Update: I've been looking into what people want in the ipad 4(not the mini) and most of the articles I've seen so far had nothing about a more powerful cpu as well as faster and more ram.
     
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    I am afraid you missed completely what spirituality is, mate. Or you are making the mistake of confusing spirituality for religious indoctrination. Spirituality has nothing to do with others, religions, priests, waiting for a higher being to help you win at lotto or give you a BMW. Spirituality has everything to do with YOUR OWN spirit. Is like saying those who have a developed arm and use it to help them in life have a low IQ or that because you have a liver you're waiting for somebody to save you. If it wouldn't have been for spiritual people this world would not exist anymore because those out of touch with their spirit would have destroyed it long ago.

    People who are waiting for a savior are very likely least spiritual and want to be saved specifically because they're weak and not in touch with themselves, otherwise they would need no saving because they would not be afraid or have anything to be saved from.

    No offense but that statement you made only makes me think you are ignorant.
     
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    Religion is not allowed and not related to the topic,so can we please go back to the tech discussion of it?
     
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    Sorry but I think you're confusing spirituality with religion.
     
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    Thank you Mad Oc and mrsix. I didn't even know where to begin. God ain't religion. Non-religious spirituality could, among other things, involve such activities as skateboarding, havin a few with your Buds at the Pub, making love, coding, taking your financial future into your own hands at BHW, spending time with family, or any other activity that puts a smile on someone's face or heart. The absence of non-religious spirituality would make George Orwell's 1984 look weak.
     
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