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Difference between linking once or several times?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by spectrejoe, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Lets say you had the chance to get unlimited urls of your website in a PR 10 such as google.com/post (herp derp not gonna happen but just to say that's it's something important) however you could only get your URLs ONLY in that 1 post, what would be the difference between linking once to your website or linking several times?

    Let's say you own ign.com

    What would be the difference between linking to:
    ign.com

    and
    ign.com
    ign.com/randompost1
    ign.com/randompost2
    ign.com/randompost3
    ign.com/randompost4

    etc etc


    How does google treat it and how would the link be in terms of effectiveness in either things
     
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  2. spectrejoe

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    maybe I wasn't clear enough, just edited the thread
     
  3. spectrejoe

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    really no one ;c
     
  4. FBGuru

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    It was a serious red flag before but now Google will count it as blogroll/footer links. They will discount all the links and pass juice as if it's a single link.
     
  5. rogerke

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    You have a primary source for the bolded statement?
     
  6. spectrejoe

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    And to which URL would it pass the juice to? The first one? The second one? How do you know it will only count as a single link?

    These are the things that confuse me because I have limited links to get my URL in and I wanted to rank my posts, if I could link to 20 posts it would be 20 x all the high pr urls I have available however if I can only link to one it would only be a few URLs and wouldn't be able to get a significant boost to the website as a whole
     
  7. rogerke

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    I bet he's talking out of his ass like always. He didn't even read your posts because he's talking about sitewide links, while you were talking about several links to individual pages of your domain.

    I'm sorry, but nobody will be able to answer your question. At best you're going to get some vague guesses. Why not test it yourself by first throwing a single link to your homepage, wait a month and then hit one of your inner pages? If the inner page starts to rank better you have some indication FBGuru is wrong.
     
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    I'm speaking from my experience plus the sources are scattered all over the WWW. Try searching for "google blogrolls penguin" or "google sitewide links penguin".
     
  9. rogerke

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    LOL LOL LOL I asked for a primary source dude, not some ramblings from sketchy SEO blogs. That way you're always able to support anything you want.

    Matt Cutts actually did a video about this and he wasn't clear about how many times a footer/sitewide link counts. He did however use the analogy of keyword density and diminishing returns, so I don't think it only counts as a single link.
     
  10. FBGuru

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    Yeah, seroundtable, searchengineland, webmasterworld, moz and google forums are all sketchy.

    If you're the sheep who follows what Matt Cutts says, what are you doing in BHW? Your fellow buddies are hanging around in DP and WF.
     
  11. spectrejoe

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    I'm not talking about sitewide links though.

    Lets image this topic right here.

    If I now placed 5 links in this post.

    google.com
    google.com/post1
    google.com/post2
    etc

    What would google think about those 5 links.

    That's what I'm asking, it has nothing to do with sitewide links, simply multiple links in a single page, does it count as 3 backlinks to different urls within the same domain or what
     
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    Let's say your linking pattern looks like this :

    google.com
    google.com/post1
    google.com/post2

    all linking to

    yoursite.com

    That's what I suggested as sitewide/footer/blogroll links.

    If you link it like this,

    google.com to yoursite.com
    google.com/post1 to yoursite.com/post18
    google.com/post2 to yoursite.com/post82

    then you'll get all the juice from

    google.com
    google.com/post1
    google.com/post2

    to your site.

    You can make the pages like a reversed silo structure so the link juice flows across your site to your homepage like

    yoursite.com to yoursite.com
    yoursite.com/post18 to yoursite.com
    yoursite.com/post82 to yoursite.com

    ^ This structure will immensely increase your site's authority if the internal link to your homepage is contextual with varied anchor texts.
     
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    The thing though is that I'm not talking about any of those.

    google.com/post1 is offering me free backlinks to yoursite.com (my site)


    and what I'm asking is what happens if I get several URLs in that single post from google


    so google.com/post1 would be linking to

    mysite.com
    mysite.com/post1
    mysite.com/post2



    Basically instead of only choosing 1 link you'd put several but all of them would be on the same domain
     
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    Man if it was that easy dont you think everyone would be doing it?

    Well actually everyone WAS doing it until google put a stop to it

    You could have answered this question with common sense, google is to smart for that SEO method
     
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  15. FBGuru

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    If you insert 20 links like that on a single page, it's considered as spam . You will/may get the benefit for a little while and lose it all in the next refresh.
     
  16. rogerke

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    We can argue about the practical relevance of those websites (most of them didn't even show up) all day long, but none of them even stated sitewide links only count once. Furthermore, I specifically asked for primary sources. Why pull that number out of your arse and lie about other sources using it as well?

    And regarding me following what Cutts says, strong straw man there. I really despise people calling themselves Guru on the internet. How arrogant can you be to choose that name and who the heck do you think you are?
     
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    a very good and beneficial talk from fbguru.
    thanks man
     
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  18. spectrejoe

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    The point is not if it works the point is what happens
     
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    Also is it okay if a post has only 5 backlinks but all those 5 have the anchor text? I mean it's a low backlink count, does google care about anchor text in such low backlink counts?
     
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    ;) lets say u put 3 links on a single post then all of em will count as 3 weaker links than if u put only 1.
    fr example if a page haz 300 linkpower to share, 3 links on that page will gt 100 each while 1 link will hog everything so not that much dif anyway, with 3 links u can spread the power to 3 dif anchor even tho its weaker

    linkpower value calculated from linkstrength, linkagility, linkvitality, linkwisdom, linkintelligence and linkdexterity

    source: my ass
     
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