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Did my 1st scrapbox blast today, any essential precautions/tips I should know?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Ranko Jones, Apr 6, 2011.

  1. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    I'm currently looking through the threads and there is good info there but it'll take time for me to go through them and the YT vids.

    Is there any precautions I should take immediately to avoid costly screwups?

    I didn't use proxies today since I guessed that my IP will be fresh but plan to in future.

    People have been talking about buffer sites...since banning from google seems to be a myth is this an unnecessary measure?

    Also I use analytics/webmaster tools for my sites- I've read you def shouldn't use it with some blackhat cos it will track naughty behavior...is this accurate in this case/at all?

    I made a blunder or two on my 1st run- one of which was not chopping out duplicate urls so I was blasting some up to ten times *blush*. I aborted that run about 50% through.

    If I want to do many keywords in the same niche what is the best way to go about it? New list for each keyword or just wait a week or two and blast another to the same with diff comments etc?

    Like I say I am also doing my searches and studying I just wanna know if there is any things I def should do now to avoid me getting blacklisted or anything like that since I am still learning how to use the tool and will likely make errors while learning if not told to definitely not to so and so.
     
  2. Sinatra

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    If you're running it through your computer, you definitely need proxies and you MUST run all sites through malware checker. I got a virus once and ISP shut my Internet down for a day. Might want to consider running it in sandboxie? It can't take too large files though.
     
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  3. Maruk

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    Buffer sites are not required..persé.. but you should think about it. It is very easy for a webmaster to report your url to Google Spam Complaint and if your site ever gets under manual review you are screwed. Always use protection buddy.

    You should definitely consider public proxies since your single IP and url could get banned by different spam blockers easily during one run.

    About the different keywords, you could use multiple keywords with one list no problem.
    Or you could indeed go with the second method you described, it all depends how fast and how many backlinks you want per keyword.
     
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  4. Ranko Jones

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    I don't get how sandboxie works. Ye I've read the writeup about it and run it several times but what is to stop a virus from running WITHIN sandboxie (I'm not talking about one specifically made to get around sandboxie just a normal one)?

    Say for example a virus which could take your credit/password details/keylogger what stops it from running within the box just like it would out of the box?

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    @maruk how could you 'stuff' more than one keyword/anchour in without it looking spammy? Currently how I do it is in the name field put my keyword but more than one would look spammy but also you'd be limited by the amount of letters I imagine in the 'name' field of wordpress commenter.

    So with the spam thing if I get reported to G by more than one or for many offenses then I could get a 'manual review'? I wasn't sure how it worked.

    Another thing...why do people talk about doing different comments? If you are only doing one comment for each blog then who cares since the blogs don't communicate with one another?

    With 'buffer sites' do you still get the same amount of linkjuice to the money site? What is a good system...make a few buffers and spam them to shit then just link them to my sites- or should I also interlink them? I've read people say don't interlink cos then it looks like a linkwheel which G doesn't like (though granted this was from a pristine whitehatter over at warriorforum) and others say you should interlink cos otherwise it looks suspect if the only link is pointing to your site (the latter was what someone on here told me- based on social network theory).

    Or would it also be advantageous to do mass article subs then link those to web 2.0 and then up to money site?

    What programs are recommended for making these link 'pyramids'?
     
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  5. Sinatra

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    Well the virus is stuck in the box. I assume you won't run Internet in the box and use your credit cards and such. The virus only has limited access and after a run you clear the box contents.
     
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    You need to use proxies. Either get 10 or so private proxies, or scrape some public proxies and filter them out.

    I use buffer sites:

    1. In case my sites get penealised for having spammy backlinks.
    2. To confuse my competition a little.

    If you want to use many keywords in the same niche, I wouldn't do either of those things. I would use the keyword scraper to get a shit load of keywords, a scrape a shit load of blogs (I mean a lot). Then after removing duplicate domains, split the list in to 50,000 or 100,000 lists, and blast to them every week or so.
     
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    That's ridiculous; how can your ISP shut your internet down for getting a virus? Anyone can get a virus. All you have to do is click a link and viola, you're infected. It's not like it's your fault. Damn, I would go crazy if my ISP shut me down. I would make some bullshit up or something and tell them that it's THEIR fault for not providing me with security.
     
  8. Ranko Jones

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    Hmm so how come you don't advise using buffers for multiple kws?

    A buffer site per keyword would be a good model no? I.e. a web 2.0 per kw with spams pointing to it and same anchour to money site.

    I don't think there is 100k context relevant blogs for my niche :D. Or do you just mean random blogs?

    Atm I want to focus on one kw at a time using different techniques so I can check what is working but once I find a good tech. then it would make sense to do multiple kws in one run I imagine.
     
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  9. Maruk

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    I answered in blue buddy, hope it makes sense.

    Mark
     
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  10. efwebs

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    So basically you did what everyone suggests you not do.

    You should be fine :)

    But seriously, your first run probably didn't net you a lot of live links, so it won't be that much spam.

    Use public proxies if nothing else. You can get them from here, SB, and a few other forums and put together a list of a few hundred pretty easily. Of course, you have to do this everyday, which takes a few extra minutes.

    If you aren't targeting related sites, you can create a websites file that looks like,

    http:site1.com {keyword1|keyword2|keyword3}
    http:site2.com {keyword1|keyword2|keyword3}
    etc

    and it will randomly choose one of the sites to link to with one of the keywords. If you have any backlinks already from article directories or web2.0 sites, you can list those sites and related keywords. and if youuse your sites, include all pages like post pages and category pages to spread the links over your whole site.

    when i harvest new urls I spam this list first so the damage is spread out and im getting a few links back to all of my sites and backlinks. if you have a site making you money, i would leave that off the list and save higher quality linking for it.
     
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