[dev-talks] Windows 10 + Linux Subsystem = ❤️

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I've been using Linux (with windows dual boot) for 2 years now. I've tried several desktop environments (KDE, Cinnamon, MATE) and still preferred Windows 10's user interface.

I tried Linux subsystem for windows yesterday. And I think I'm gonna keep it.

We have a full-blown Linux terminal (Hyper + OhMyZSH + ScreenFetch) + windows UI

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(I've blurred my name with my amazing ms-paint skills)

People choose MacOS for development for its *nix environment. Microsoft is trying their best to turn this around.

(did I mention vscode, github unlimited private repos for free<-- Microsoft rocks)

You get your MS Office, Photoshop and also can run the same tools you'd need to be running to do your development work.

I don't have to use putty,
I can use curl, wget :)
And I can use Internet Download Manager and KMPlayer. <-- two softwares I miss the most on Linux

Anyone here hv tried this? What are your thoughts?
 
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Not a fan of Windows <enter any version here>. I find Windows just keeps rolling out the same 80's and 90's mindset with a different graphical skin. Its hands down horrible for development and it clings to its outdated technologies like a hoarder. Defragging a file system and its 2019(I'm surprised you don't have to park the heads before powering down)! A software update system that's just baffling! A system that needs to reboot every time it updates? Are you kidding?
Windows is losing its market share on all fronts and it still refuses to bend to market pressures. I can't wait for its next major update.... I mean graphical skin.
 
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G4143 said:
A system that needs to reboot every time it updates? Are you kidding?
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This I hate. Yes. I keep hibernating my laptop for days for this reason.

I am not sure when the last time you used windows - but I don't hate it like I used to. If you are sysadmin type of guy.. then Windows is still horrible.

I mostly work on Java (Deleted member 923340??), python and Javascript technologies (node, react). I feel like JetBrains IDES with the bash terminal I mentioned above is a pretty solid setup for this.
 
The next time you are in Windows 10, just try and notice the GUI inconsistencies... You are talking about the best (or the best money can buy) software engineers and computer scientist and designers and the best they can roll out is Windows 10. It really makes you wonder about this field.

And that Linux environment for Windows.. Its started with a big fanfare and then faded into the background... I wonder why?
 
M4r3k said:
How about this one - https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/i7-processors/i7-9700k.html
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I was not bragging about my setup mate. The laptop im using is 4 years old. :D

virtualpurity said:
Its nice for playing around and for webdevs but still has a lot of bugs.
And this opens a whole new playground for vulnerabilities and malware, so i would just stick to the dual boot.

https://thehackernews.com/2017/09/windows-10-linux-evade-malware.html
https://www.zdnet.com/article/windo...res-how-hackers-could-use-it-to-hide-malware/
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Those articles are 1.5+ year old. Pretty sure, they have rolledout a solution. But I agree, we can come across bugs and unwanted issues. (trying to use docker with this lol)

The next time you are in Windows 10, just try and notice the GUI inconsistencies... You are talking about the best (or the best money can buy) software engineers and computer scientist and designers and the best they can roll out is Windows 10. It really makes you wonder about this field.
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UIs are a subjective thing. I spent my first few years with a Windows XP PC. Maybe that's the reason I keep coming back to this.
 
I have to give Windows credit for something(well something they copied from the open community. Big surprise)..

Microsoft Visual Code.... They finally got it right here... Or should I say they copied a correct idea. Create a simple editor shell and let the users and community decide how they want it to operate.

Will the Windows people learn from this wildly popular editor... I don't see that happening.
 
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For me windows with Linux subsystem are very helpful - i don't need to change VM's and things. It may not be very stable for now, but it's definitely something helpfull
 
Switched from Windows to a Mac about a year ago and my productivity skyrocketed exponentially. Outside of VS code, Excel, Powerpoint, and gaming support, Microsoft is awful. Not to mention the Microsoft enterprise development culture is toxic, at least in my industry.. I deal with 3-4 companies regularly and I have to mentally prep myself to deal with all the shenanigans.
 
Although I'm a Linux user, I've played with WSL at work quite a bit. It's works very well for the basics and like how integrated it is compared to something like Cygwin. I couldn't use it fulltime as it doesn't have certain system calls available - for example, nmap is useless through WSL.

For most basic uses it seems like a good idea for Windows users.
 
Lifelong said:
Although I'm a Linux user, I've played with WSL at work quite a bit. It's works very well for the basics and like how integrated it is compared to something like Cygwin. I couldn't use it fulltime as it doesn't have certain system calls available - for example, nmap is useless through WSL.

For most basic uses it seems like a good idea for Windows users.
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Well, your occupation says `System Administrator` - You have to stay far far away from windows. lol
 
There is one place that this feature shine: Companies keep using windows, so it can be a good thing to get the work done, unless you are a .net dev =D

I kinda like windows from a user perspective, but to work, I have my linux installed in my main pc =D
 
Deleted member 923340 said:
Well, your occupation says `System Administrator` - You have to stay far far away from windows. lol
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Unfortunately not as much as I'd like! Many companies are still very fond of Windows in the datacenter - or get sold systems that only run on WIndows.

Relevant tip - SSH is now also included as a feature into WIndows, without requiring WSL first.
 
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