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Determine long tail competition

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by qlithe, Jun 14, 2014.

  1. qlithe

    qlithe Power Member

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    So I've found a long tail keyword with a pretty decent search volume.

    The top ranking domains is microsoft.com and seems to have pretty high DA/PA according to moz. However, they have 0 links and 0 TF/CF.

    If I search for the long tail with citations I get around 10k results and none of the top 10 has any competition whatsoever.

    How do I know if a long tail is easily ranked?
     
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    another tool => keywordrevealer.com

    Also I have found moz to be highly inaccurate for spammed queries , So take that into consideration if your niche belongs to this category .
     
  3. irdeto

    irdeto Regular Member

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    i would check specifically if any of your competition is targeting that long tail via google search:

    use the google search operators allintitle and allinurl

    so in google search you would typesomething like:

    allintitle:longtail keyword here

    and
    allinurl:longtail keyword here

    it's a little old school but at least you will see how many competitors are actively targeting that keyword.
     
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  4. qlithe

    qlithe Power Member

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    Already done that. The top10 is only targeting the base keyword.
     
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    Generally speaking if you find a whole load of authority sites with 0 PA or backlinks in the top 10, its an easy keyword to rank for.
     
  6. qlithe

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    But are there authority sites with pages with 0 PA?

    All pages from authority sites that I've seen always have tons of PA even though they have 0 backlinks. I assume this comes from internal links?
     
  7. irdeto

    irdeto Regular Member

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    so if they are only targeting the base keyword and you have zero competition for long tail i think you already know the answer to your own question :)
     
  8. irdeto

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    I think you are over thinking the process here. A long tail keyword is generally a low comp low hanging fruit type of project. Don't get too caught up with DA / PA.

    Just make the page, build a small amount of links and see how you go.

    You might not even need any links! You won't know until you try.
     
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    I disagree. Yes don't over complicate it, but there is no point trying hard too hard to a competitive long tail keyword. Its very simple:

    look at the intitle and inurl and exact results in Google...
    look at the top 10 and look at the PA for each result.
    look at if the keyword is in the title, description and url.

    From there you can see if its easy or hard.
     
  10. qlithe

    qlithe Power Member

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    Well, that depends on how you define zero competition. They are only targeting the base keyword but they do have pretty high PA but low TF/CF.
     
  11. irdeto

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    Yes I agree. This is exactly what I said in my post earlier. But the OP is getting a little carried away with PA and trust flow and citations when he has already said his competition aren't even targeting the long tails. only base keywords.
     
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  12. qlithe

    qlithe Power Member

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    But what does high PA/TF/CF really tell me if there are no links?
     
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    They are often internal backlinks. These results are there more by default rather than targeted through SEO, and if this is the case the keyword will be easy