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Deinxeding a website so use content again?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Killix, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. Killix

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    Hey all,

    So i was having a conversation with a friend and we got into a bit of a disagreement about duplicated content. The conversation was about if a website with say 100 articles was to be deindexed would it be possible to use the content on another site without spinning or changing it at all.

    We both got a bit confused as to if the site is to be deindexed the content would no longer be live so would it class as dupe content on another site?

    Does anyone know how this would work?

    Thanks, and hope your all having a great monday :p

    Killix.
     
  2. drogon

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    If the site is deindexed (not becuase of the content) then as long as the inner page urls that held the content are no longer indexed and the content has also not been copied elsewhere then you can re use the content no problem. I have tested and had no problems with this strategy in the past.
     
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  3. Killix

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    Thanks mate just what i was looking for.
     
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    I think you can use the content without an issue.
     
  5. ReggaeShark

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    take down the domain and then use the content.
     
  6. testdrive

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    if the old site has no penalty, why would you want it deindexed? (I'm assuming it also yours) anyways, you can also do a 301 redirect for each page/article to the newpage/samearticle this way it can also pass some good factors to the new page you created like link juice if there is any, age if the old domain is actually old, etc.

    another benefit of the 301 is you don't have to wait for the old article to be de indexed.
     
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    We have tested sites that got a penalty to see if we could reuse the content since it was unique on not on any site anymore since the original was taken down (so almost similar to what you are saying). In our tests it shows that you can get the content indexed, but it's harder to get it ranked to the position it was.
     
  8. Techxan

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    You do not understand what duplicate content is. Duplicate content only occurs if the duplicate content exists on multiple pages of the same website.

    Removing the old website may help the new one rank better, but the new site will not incur a penalty just because it is the same as the old site, even if the old site is still live.

    In fact you can duplicate the site word for word and reuse it and still not get hit with a duplicate content penalty, because this is not duplicate content. It is syndicated, or distributed content.

    If the old site has any authority or backlinks, it might be a good idea o 301 redirect the old pages to the new pages on the new domain, for the SEO juice.
     
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  9. Killix

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    I'm guessing the argument was more around this yes it was just a talk no site was penalized in anyway we where just discussing.
     
  10. the_demon

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    In my opinion it really depends what the cause was for the penalty. If the penalty was content / keyword stuffing/density related then I would obviously not recommend using it over again.

    If you're killing your existing domain (as in not using it)...

    I would either;

    a) Go to Google webmaster and declare the website is changing urls, then 301

    b) If you were penalized for aggressive link spam or content related penalties I would advise you don't 301 the domain as it might hurt you more than it could potentially help.

    -> Delete all the pages on previous domain
    -> Ping domain so Google sees all the content is gone

    If there is no penalty and you just want to change domain names:

    -> Submit change of address to Google Webmaster Tools
    -> wildcard 301 your domain to the new site

    Realistically, I doubt you'd get hit with any kind of duplicate penalty particularly if you removed the content from the old domain. Duplicate content penalty is more so when you're taking 1 article, spinning it 1,000 times for article links and pointing them back to your domain OR when a substantial portion of your content comes from another website.
     
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  11. cocococo

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    Apparently duplicate content penalty is a myth lol, I created a thread about duplicate content and how you could get derank because of it.
     
  12. bigballin6161

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    Sorry to hijack this thread. So I currently have a site with 100 articles for my offline business. I want to open another offline business in another city. So I can use the same articles from the original site and their will be no penalty on either site?!
     
  13. tranza

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    I have done this before, after the domain have been deindexed the content not longer show up on google, i did it after the last penguin update, and the new domain is ranking solid.
     
  14. Techxan

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    No the duplicate penalty is not a myth, Google definitely penalizes you for duplicate content. You just have to undferstand that what you are describing is not duplicate content.

    If Google de-inedxed websites with this kind of content, there would only be one copy of anything on the Internet and news sites couldn't exist.
     
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  15. edgematch

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    I am using the content of a deindexed site on one of my domains for 2 weeks. Everything seems OK up to now.