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Define Spam links and Quality links...

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by myk33, Feb 10, 2011.

  1. myk33

    myk33 Junior Member

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    Ok so after a good read over the Google crack down on spam we have to ask the question... what is considered a spam link.

    Comment spam both manual and using things like Xrummer which are on pages with 100s of OBL and usually are auto approve are hands down examples of spam and there is no excuse.

    Creating profiles and sticking a link in the bio or signature and not ever posting is spam.

    so Google will be looking to crack down on sites that use these "blackhat" spammy methods.

    now i don?t need to list what a quality link is but taking the second spam method of forum profiles in to consideration i have this question.

    I create a profile on a forum and put a link in the signature and never post... This is spam.

    Now on the SAME forum i create a profile and ask a genuine question which references my site and anchor text of the post.

    in the eyes of Google does the latter then become a quality link which they would give a point to?

    If you ask me, all whitehat methods are just blackhat nowadays because they are just exploited and over used.

    This begs the question... what do Google really want from us...
     
  2. albaniax

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    I think, you think to much about it.

    Create all kind of links, forum profiles at high PR boards, high PR blog comments at sites with low OBL ( You CAN find them, just dig depper ), ARTICLES are still at his best, ScrapeBox for indexing purposes as third-tier links, EDU profiles, some reciprocal links, and so one..

    It all still works like this, and always had, and I don't see it stop working like this.
     
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  3. littlewebdragon

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    Pruning spam from real results without "human" touch is impossible.

    Even when humans "hop in" to help, who will know is it a bot post or real post?

    Stupid spam posts are obvious, but if someone is spamming on more clever way by using combination of outsource and tools to spam it's very hard to make a difference between those.

    If someone links to your website there is no way that you will get banned for bad links.

    If this is the case, competitors would be kicked out by using xrumer services. You can be an angel and put up few good backlinks for you then trow in 50k of profile links towards competitor and they will be ruined. Right? Well not that easy.

    Google is trying to prune spam, but that's cool, BH'ers are just going to try harder to pass over G.

    You know, people, when they are in jail, they will make knife from almost anything. Apple knife, water knife, shoe knife, napkin knife, pillow knife and try whatever it takes to get away... So think about that when you want to rank for your keyword. Do anything that takes to get #1.

    So, no matter how hard G push to the limits, there will be ALWAYS a way around. So don't worry. :)
     
  4. myk33

    myk33 Junior Member

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    haha exactly what i mean when i say whitehat methods just become blackhat. You cant win!

    I think articles are good. but most articles you find such as ezine are not really that useful IMO. They just want to spam their link the the resource box which usually is a site selling some rubbish or full of ads.

    My website had a few knocks on some of our keywords down between 2 - 6 places after the google updates today (i hope what ever it is they are doing it is temporary). Not a major biggy but given me a kick up the ass to acquire some quality links which i hope can separate me from my competitors.
     
  5. Datalore

    Datalore Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    One thing google is doing to combat the spammy links is they are valuing the context surrounding the link higher. So a link within a topic specific article (within a decent amount of quality text) will weigh far more than a link placed by itself, or within a few words. That's about all they can do.. They can't look at every link. This is where you want to use the spammy links, via tools, to create thousands of links, because creating thousands of low quality links is the only way to make those count for anything. Also for diversity, so you will have a good mix of blog comments, forum signatures, profiles, etc.

    Of course, it is just my hunch, that profile links will eventually not count for much, if anything, because common sense says, why would it? Who clicks on someones profile and clicks his link anymore, and why should that increase a site's popularity? Again, imho.
     
  6. To me i am not gonna agree if truly search engine like google take profile signature as spam. Depending on the site where that opportunity is available to have a link signature in profile that seem to be legit even if the profile owner hasn't make a single post. I think good quality link have to be related to the post or contents where it appear and such link will be a authority. But the exact penalty for spamming links that flood a site could be worse.
     
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    +1 rep for you.... Agree your words.