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Debate: Should I upgrade from 8GB RAM to 16GB RAM?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SEOfarmer, Dec 21, 2011.

  1. SEOfarmer

    SEOfarmer Regular Member

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    I know this might not be a 'direct' BH question, but I feel its somehow related, due to the tools I am using on this computer, so here we go:

    I am debating if I should upgrade my i5 / 8GB ram computer to 16GB ram.
    From what I read here, since i5 doesnt have hyper-threading, i dont know if it will help improve performance much.

    I plan to run Scrapebox + Senuke + AMR + NHSEO on it, all together.
    Any advice?
     
  2. NoirHat

    NoirHat Regular Member

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    Don't guess..
    use your resource monitor in windows to see if you are going over 8 gigs..
    if so then upgrade.
    be sure to use ALL of the programs that you would use at one time
     
  3. procmail

    procmail Junior Member

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    I'd upgrade to 16GB ram, and run virtual machines for the tools that you mentioned.
     
  4. chad362wiley

    chad362wiley Supreme Member

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    Why VM's?
     
  5. chad362wiley

    chad362wiley Supreme Member

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    No, I have a 2500k OC'ed to 4.5ghz and with 8gb ram, I can't get over 50% no matter how many programs I'm running.

    Why?
     
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    Unless you're still running a 32bit OS, you'll notice improved performance from the upgrade.
     
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    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    If they didn't want you to upgrade your RAM then why did they give you an empty slot?

    Fill them all I say!
     
  8. SEOfarmer

    SEOfarmer Regular Member

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    I thoguht about that, but i dont know if it is a wise move as not all app allow multi-instance/multi-licensing.

    So far, it still havent been able to reach over 7GB yet. However, I do notice the computer slowed down a bit when they are all running.

    Another concern is bandwidth usage. I noticed a lot of you guys run these programs ona VPS. I dont know if I will be moving to that direction as well.

    Good thinking! I dont mind filling them up as DDR3 arent that expensive these days and there are some great discount during Xmas, but as mentioned above, if it doesnt improve much (due to i5 - no hyperthreading support), then it doesnt worth the hassle, if you get what i mean. lol
     
  9. minimo88

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    If you do do decide to get a VPS then this should help a little.

    buy a VPS and transfer all of your programs over to the VPS.

    Because:
    Better bandwidth
    Free up more resources on your computer
    Can do work from anywhere in the world (with internet access)

    I might not because:
    Can be hacked.
     
  10. SEOfarmer

    SEOfarmer Regular Member

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    Thanks for the advice.
    Whats your bandwidth usage per month on average? If you dont mind sharing.
     
  11. HostStage

    HostStage Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member UnGagged Attendee

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    Well from the arguments you have i wouldn't upgrade to 16 GB of RAM.

    Here is my thoughts from my own experience.

    I have a i7 860 Hyperthreaded, 6 GB of RAM and a lame cooler.

    I can run perfectly : Firefox (20 tabs) Chrome (10 tabs) OPera (60 tabs), scrapebox, no hands SEO, FTP programs, VLC, itunes, remote deesktop connection, rank tracker, photoshop, dreamweaver, some PDF, word, excel, lots of explorater windows and a virtual machine with XP running Xrumer and PAD submitter

    On the top of it i can even launch games such as a FPS when i need a break without closing any programs.

    Hyperthreading helps for multitask but compared to a new i5 such as the 2500k, it is grossly the same and even slightly better for i5 2500k according to benchmarks.

    With the applications i mentionned i used 13% of CPU maximum, and 3% on a regular basis and 85% of RAM (mostly because of firefox)

    Within a few days, i'll be able to compare with a i5 2500k non multithreaded and i'll stress it to see if it can confirms my tells.

    ANyway, my point is 16GB will make things better for you and it is cheap nowaydays, although you wouldn't need it for the 3 programs you mentionned.
     
  12. SEOfarmer

    SEOfarmer Regular Member

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    Thanks, abysse

    I get what you're saying, but my i5 is the old i5. The first generation.
     
  13. partymarty4870

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    I run a i5 quad core with 16mb of ram. It came with 4, and I did notice the difference after upgrading. I didn't do it in steps though, I just stuck it all in.
     
  14. SEOfarmer

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    Does the following program supports hyper-threading anyways?

    SeNuke - i think they do
    scrapebox - not sure :confused:
    NHSEO - not sure :confused:
    AMR - not sure :confused:

    Otherwise, maybe there is no point of upgrading to i7 or even more RAM afterall?
     
  15. Bloghat

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    just get it. alone for using firefox.
     
  16. Jesse550

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    Chances are you'll be fine with 8 gigs, heck they's more than enough. If you had 4 gigs I would suggest upping it to 6 minimum, but 8 is plenty The biggest bottleneck in computers these days is a hard drive. You will notice huge performance & multitasking increases from upgrading a hard drive to a solid state drive if you don't already have one. By huge, I mean...HUGE.

    If you do need more ram, you'll notice.